Generic Family - Room Bounding Propoerties

[Foggo]

I would like to add a "Room Bounding" Parameter / Constraint to a Generic Family I have already created

I have successfully created a Shear wall Family for the core of a building I am modeling.

 I've stacked one on top of another and linked it as a project file with a Global "Room Bounding" checked into the main Project File 

Geometrically it all works perfectly and even looks right with a concrete fill linestyle. But sadly the instance doesn't appear to realise that it is meant to act like a wall when it comes to adding rooms!

[loboarch · Accepted solution]

Generic families can't be room bounding.  What you could do is create a room seperation line and then aling and lock that to your generic family.  This would make it act like it is room bounding.

[desislavabocheva]

I have tried something and it worked for me. If it is not a problem to change the category of the generic model family, you can make it a WALL, or Column from the "Family Category and Properties" box and reload it into the project. My case was, that I had a "hand-made" chimney, which was generic model extrusion in Mechanical Equipment category. So I turned it to "Column" category, which is room bounding.

[Sahay_R · Accepted solution]

@Foggo @loboarch - I know this is an old thread.... but here goes.

Architecture>>Component>>Model in place

When prompted, pick a Room Bounding category (Walls or Columns - I prefer Walls)

Insert>>Load Family

Load and insert the desired family. Select it - make it into a Group.

File>>Saveas>>Library>>Group

Save the Group that you just created out as a family.

Now you can edit the desired family, and associate parameters to allow desired control. And yes, this will be Room Bounding, among other things.

[ToanDN · Accepted solution]

Or you can create a family using Column template.

[Sahay_R · Accepted solution]

Very true, @ToanDN. Just be careful that the instances are hosted to the level - otherwise the room won't recognize them.....as a matter of fact, just switching the family category around is also an option.....

[pieter5]

Wow... I knew about this workaround to convert inplace families to regular families but I had no idea it would allow you to create component families for the forbidden categories! Thanks for sharing.

[Nisreenki]

@Sahay_R  Hello, i know this is an old thread but i am facing the same problem and just saw this work around! when i choose to save as the group the file extension displayed is .rvt so it is saving the group as a project and not as a family, is there another way to save the group as a family ? i am using rvt 2018

[Sahay_R]

Make sure that you are in Edit In Place. Then select the geometry and make it into a group - and save it out to the RFA.

[Nisreenki]

@Sahay_R  Thank you so much! it worked like magic

I turned the family I want into wall family and got it as room bounding, but there's another solid in the family with visibility settings in one type (the family contains more than one type) that is affecting the room's area calculation, is there a certain setting that I can turn on/off so the solid won't affect the room's boundary or i should just separate the different types?

I attached a small sample 

[Sahay_R]

Separate families is one way out. Or else you can use an if/then statement, where if visibility is yes, then value of area will be area1, if no, it will be area2

[ToanDN]

You could just create a Column Family and set it as Room Boundary. Yes you can model it in any shapes and sizes, not necessary a column.

[dm0144]

@loboarch I tried that and it didn't work form me.

[RDAOU]

Select room separators + family and create group 

[Mark_Engwirda]

Hi Sahay-R, this is an excellent solution!
I don't know why Autodesk doesn't implement a room bounding option for Revit families such as generic, casement etc.
Maybe this should be on the ideas board?

[david_abraham_garcia]

AWE SOME!