Existing, Demolition, New Work Phases

[Anonymous]

Okay, here's the scenario:
You have an Existing building that requires demolition then new work.
So, you set up three phases and can even set up 3 plan level views for
Existing (Show All), Demolition (Show Previous + Demolished), and New (Show
Previous + New).

Now, I need to add a new door to an existing wall. The wall is drawn during
the existing phase, while the door is added to the wall in the New Phase.
What I need to have happen is for the door to create a "demo-wall" condition
in the Demolition Phase, yet it doesn't do this automatically.

In ADT I handle this with custom blocks and Display Representations, so that
the "new door" appears as a "demolished opening" in the Demo Display. How do
I achieve the same thing in Revit?

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Reid M. Addis
Registered Architect
Architectural Applications Specialist
Granary Associates
411 North 20th Street
Philadelphia, PA 19130
Ph. 215-665-7056
email: addis@granaryassoc.com

[Anonymous]

Hmmmm....now it seems to be doing just what I want. The wall is shown dashed
in the demo phase.
Don't know what I did to achieve this. Anyway, the "edges" of the opening at
the new door still don't show in the demo phase. How do I get them to show.

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Regards,
---------------
Reid M. Addis
Registered Architect
Architectural Applications Specialist
Granary Associates
411 North 20th Street
Philadelphia, PA 19130
Ph. 215-665-7056
email: addis@granaryassoc.com

[Anonymous]

my demo new construction problem works fine

UNTIL I add a new door or window, close to where a demoded door or window is
and the wall turns all goofy!

steve


"Reid M. Addis" wrote in message
news:5051320@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hmmmm....now it seems to be doing just what I want. The wall is shown dashed
in the demo phase.
Don't know what I did to achieve this. Anyway, the "edges" of the opening at
the new door still don't show in the demo phase. How do I get them to show.

--
Regards,
---------------
Reid M. Addis
Registered Architect
Architectural Applications Specialist
Granary Associates
411 North 20th Street
Philadelphia, PA 19130
Ph. 215-665-7056
email: addis@granaryassoc.com

[Anonymous]

Yeah, for some reason the 'endcaps' where the demo'd portion of the wall is
do not display. You will have to place these with Detail Lines if you need
them to show.

"Reid M. Addis" wrote in message
news:5051320@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hmmmm....now it seems to be doing just what I want. The wall is shown dashed
in the demo phase.
Don't know what I did to achieve this. Anyway, the "edges" of the opening at
the new door still don't show in the demo phase. How do I get them to show.

--
Regards,
---------------
Reid M. Addis
Registered Architect
Architectural Applications Specialist
Granary Associates
411 North 20th Street
Philadelphia, PA 19130
Ph. 215-665-7056
email: addis@granaryassoc.com

[Anonymous]

You are over working this...

Revit only needs two phases to pull this off, Existing and New Construction. You model the existing building with views using the phase set to Existing then when done you can either switch to new construction in the same view or duplicate the view to start the new work with the phase set to New Construction.

Add your new door and Revit will demo the wall where the door goes. By default the view will have a Phase Filter of Show All, change this to Show Previous and New. Now just the existing wall and new door will appear. If you change the filter to Show Previous and Demo you will see the existing wall and the demo portion but no door.

These are all set up by default in the Revit project templates and work out of the box. Adding the extra phase is messing up your work flow since Revit manages the demo objects automatically for you. Each object in Revit has two properties, Phase Created and Phase Demolished. If phase demolished is none then it must exist and it is displayed according the the phase it was created in and the current phase and phase filters assigned to each view.

Keep in mind that phases are a timeline and whatever phase is set in a view is "new". Previous phases are "existing". Objects that are part of an earlier phase but demolished in a current phase are "demo". Objects that are demolished in the same phase they were created in are "temporary". See Settings>Phases then Graphic Overrides

Check the tutorials under Help for this.

[Anonymous]

Thanks Steve.
I understand adding the door in New phase.
I still need the DEMO phase to produce a Demolition Drawing for the project.

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Regards,
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Reid M. Addis
Registered Architect
Architectural Applications Specialist
Granary Associates
411 North 20th Street
Philadelphia, PA 19130
Ph. 215-665-7056
email: addis@granaryassoc.com

[Anonymous]

Be careful, there is no need for a "DEMO" phase, using one will only
confuse your users. Revit understands "WHEN" you demolished somthing
not just what you demolished. So to show you demo plan use a phase
filter on the view.

-Z

Reid M. Addis wrote:
> Thanks Steve.
> I understand adding the door in New phase.
> I still need the DEMO phase to produce a Demolition Drawing for the project.
>

[Anonymous]

I attempted to explain why you don't need a demo phase, just existing and new construction only...apparently I didn't do very well.

You need a VIEW that is set to show demolition, not a PHASE to show it. Each view can be set to show a specific phase and apply a phase filter. The filter governs what things look like. So a view that is set to New Construction and a phase filter "Show Previous and Demo" will give you a demo plan.

Take a spin through the tutorial for phasing.

[tomf]

I was wondering, as someone who is contemplating Revit (from ADT), can you demo a part of a wall? Say I want to demolish 6' of an existing wall - in the middle of it or at the end. Can that be done?

[Anonymous]

First use the split tool to split wall into pieces, then demolish a piece.
wrote in message news:5149878@discussion.autodesk.com...
I was wondering, as someone who is contemplating Revit (from ADT), can you
demo a part of a wall? Say I want to demolish 6' of an existing wall - in
the middle of it or at the end. Can that be done?