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Egress path - railing or detail item

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10-08-2013 02:13 PM

I want to create an Egress path that automatically shows me the total length and also works through multiple levels.

Cadastrophe had provided a method to do that with details. This gives good results. however, I didn't see a way to use it on stairs and multiple levels (for total length inc. mezzanines etc.)

 

I created a method with railings that seems to work including multiple floors and I also could schedule it (s. attached screenshot that shows me the lower floor and also the dashed Egress path on mezzanine).

The way I did it was to create balusters that are shaped like arrows, and place them every 4 ft along the railing. So yes it is a bit cheating and a workaround, but works for Egress purposes.

 

I learned the hard way that railings aren't really families like windows etc. that I can save elsewhere, but more like walls that are not saved and manipulated separately. This also seems to apply to "handrail type", Railing", and "top Rail type". So I only could play with baluster families. However, those couldn't get shared parameters. So I'm a bit limited. I also wasn't able to create subcategories for balusters. So all the railing families are not as flexible as other families.

 

My concern with using railings is, how do I include actual railing on the stairs when the stair already has the "Egress railing"? And since I can't create subcategories, my views would show the "Egress railings" whenever I show normal railings. The only workaround seems to be to manually hide the railing I don't want to show in each view.

 

Does any one have a better idea? I googled a lot, but didn't find more. I know of the Stafford Egress method, but think what Cadastrophe provided is much better (and also what my railing does so far).

the only progress I made was to be able to place the "egress railing" in the center of the stairs so that I can add the regular railings to the stairs.

 

the problem is, how do I display in a view the normal stairs, but not the "egress" stairs and vice versa? There doesn't seem to be a way to create sub-categories. I only can manually hide the element, which seems tedious.

 

I was able to create a schedule and a tag, but noticed i wasn't able to add parameters to the railing family. So i use the "identity Data" parameters. Would be good to be able to add more parameters.

 

i think I have a pretty good workaround (even when i have to manually hide the egress railing. I would appreciate any advice to improve this.

I found a solution to my workaround to have to manually hide the "egress rails". I created a filter for my view templates. The rail will have a comment "Egress" and in my section views where i show the regular railings, i filter them out. So this works pretty good and I think the egress mystery is resolved.

It is pretty slick, I just moved a door to meet a 100' requirement and seeing the distance in realtime is helpful.

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Re: Egress path - railing or detail item

11-06-2013 06:14 PM in reply to: kschindel

the only progress I made was to be able to place the "egress railing" in the center of the stairs so that I can add the regular railings to the stairs.

 

the problem is, how do I display in a view the normal stairs, but not the "egress" stairs and vice versa? There doesn't seem to be a way to create sub-categories. I only can manually hide the element, which seems tedious.

 

I was able to create a schedule and a tag, but noticed i wasn't able to add parameters to the railing family. So i use the "identity Data" parameters. Would be good to be able to add more parameters.

 

i think I have a pretty good workaround (even when i have to manually hide the egress railing. I would appreciate any advice to improve this.

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Re: Egress path - railing or detail item

11-19-2013 06:36 AM in reply to: kschindel

I found a solution to my workaround to have to manually hide the "egress rails". I created a filter for my view templates. The rail will have a comment "Egress" and in my section views where i show the regular railings, i filter them out. So this works pretty good and I think the egress mystery is resolved.

It is pretty slick, I just moved a door to meet a 100' requirement and seeing the distance in realtime is helpful.

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