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Different subcategory for family types

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Redli1
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Different subcategory for family types

I understand how to change material by family type but how can I change object subcategory by family type? Is this possible?  

 

 

 

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in  order to create Subcategories in Families :

  1. Make a New Family using an adequate template  - in my example Furniture
  2. Manage > Object Styles > Model Objects > Modify Subcategories > New > New Subcategory > enter a Name for it - in my example Table Top ...it appears in Category - you can choose here the material of subcategory - Image 01
  3. Make an extruded shape ( as Table Top ) - in Properties > Subcategory - expand and choose table top....Image 02
  4. Make extruded shapes for table legs -  in Properties > Subcategory - expand and choose table leg ...
  5. in Family Types you can create Shared Parameters for Subcategory that can be later used in Project in Furniture Schedules ( In my example I've create Length ,Depth and Height parameters ) - Image 03
  6. Once loaded into project the Subcategories are still there ( Manage > Object Styles > Model Objects > Furniture - expand - table top and table legs are here and you can control also materials...

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Constantin Stroescu
BIM Manager AGD
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thank you very much. Just for my understanding: I have a family with 3 types and I want to assign to each type a differnt subcategory. But there is no parameter for subcategory like for example for material. 

Let's say I have a Box which I want to show in three different ways. Later I want to export the file to autocad and assign for each of the three family types a differnt layer.

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in Family Editor :

  1. select the box (table top) - Properties > Identity Data > Subcategory > table top - then Material and Finishes > Material >click on the right small button > Associate Family Parameter opens >Add Parameter > Parameter Properties > create a new material parameter - I called it here table base...Image 1 and Image 2
  2. create 3 different types : select the box and : Properties > Family Types > New  - create three types : box 1, box 2 and box 3 with different parameters - Image 3, Image 4 and Image 5
  3. load Family into Project 

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Constantin Stroescu
BIM Manager AGD
Message 5 of 8

thanks again for your assistance.

I have three family types of a box. Later I have to export the revit file to dwg and each family type has to be on a different layer. For this I have to create one subcategory for each family type. With materials I do not have this possibility.

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Alfredo_Medina
in reply to: Redli1

"Subcategory" is a property that can be applied to elements that are created locally, not to elements that are nested families. Therefore, for nested elements, the subcategory must be created in the nested elements' own family file. Then, load those elements into a host family, create a Family Type parameter, apply that parameter to one of the elements, load the host family into a project, create multiple instances of the family, each of them with its own family type value. Now, if you export this project to dwg you will have on the list all the subcategories that you created, and you will be able to assign a different layer to each subcategory.

 

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miketuter
in reply to: Alfredo_Medina

"Then, load those elements into a host family, create a Family Type parameter, apply that parameter to one of the elements, load the host family into a project,"

Could you elaborate a little more on this part?  I have flow arrows (detail item) nested into my air terminals that I would like to be able turn them off using a subcategory.  The reason for this is that when they are linked into the architect's model, they want to be able to turn the flow arrows off, but still see the face plate of the grill.  Any and all suggestions are welcome.

 


@Alfredo_Medina wrote:

"Subcategory" is a property that can be applied to elements that are created locally, not to elements that are nested families. Therefore, for nested elements, the subcategory must be created in the nested elements' own family file. Then, load those elements into a host family, create a Family Type parameter, apply that parameter to one of the elements, load the host family into a project, create multiple instances of the family, each of them with its own family type value. Now, if you export this project to dwg you will have on the list all the subcategories that you created, and you will be able to assign a different layer to each subcategory.

 

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Message 8 of 8
ToanDN
in reply to: miketuter

@miketuter 

 

What you highlighted in red is entirely different from subcategories and not applicable to what you are trying to do.

More information about it is here if you are interested to understanding the use and the purposes of Family Type parameters.

 

There are several ways to get what you are trying to do:

 

1.  Create a subcategory (lets say Flow Arrow) in the Arrow Detail family and assign it to the arrow, then load in the the main family and load the main family in the project.  The Flow Arrow subcategory will show under Detail Items tree.  Turn that subcategory off will turn off the arrows but keep the face plate visible.

 

2.  No need to create a subcategory.  Highlight the flow arrow in your main family and click Visibility/Graphics Overrides, you will see Coarse, medium, and Fine check boxes.  Uncheck any of the boxes will hide the arrows when the views are set to that Detail level.  For example, uncheck Medium box, OK and load the family in your project, open a view and change the detail level to medium then the arrow will disappear.

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