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Message 1 of 19
abir.acharjee
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Architectural Plan

After bringing a conceptual mass to the Project file, when we are trying to see the Plans at the respective levels, the surface below is seen. In one computer after giving the view range 1, 1, 0, 0 this is shown but in another machine this is not happening and all the surface is shown as in the middle image attached.

 

What is the right way for doing this?QUESTION.jpg

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Message 2 of 19
vector2
in reply to: abir.acharjee

I've never heard of a "surface below".

 

There might be a level below, but if there

is nothing on that level then there is nothing

to see. Except for showing the work plan grid

for that level below.

 

Please explain what exactly you are seeing

from below.

Message 3 of 19
abir.acharjee
in reply to: vector2

THANKS.

 

IF YOU SEE THE IMAGE ABOVE, THE MIDDLE IMAGE SHOWS THE PLAN FOR THAT LEVEL AS SEEN IN REVIT. BUT ALL THE LINES ARE NOT PRESENT IN THIS LEVEL. THIS LEVEL PLAN SHOULD SHOW THE CROSS SECTION AS SHOWN IN THE IMAGE ON THE EXTREME RIGHT. MOST OF THE LINES ARE THE LINES BELOW THIS LEVEL.

Message 4 of 19

Say if we take a simple cylinder and twist it. In cross section or plan we should see only an elliptical/circullar shape. We should not see the hidden lines beneath the concerned level.

 

Please have a lok at the attached images to explain the issue.

 

 

QUESTION4.jpg

Message 5 of 19
vector2
in reply to: abir.acharjee

Okay you say those lines should not be visable because they

were created on the level below. There are several kind of lines

there. Let's take one at a time. Starting with the grid lines.

 

Notice in the image I posted, I created a bunch of grid lines

just like you have on that level you say they should not be

seen. I created those lines on level 1. Yet they are visable

on level 2. 

 

Why is that?

 

Because grid lines are infinite planes that can be seen on

any level no matter which level they were created on.

 

If someone posts, "DO NOT follow vector2s advice", just ignore

that. I'm only telling it to you the way I understand it.

 

Grid Lines.PNG

Message 6 of 19

Thank you.

 

I am not mentioning the grid lines, which need to be seen at all levels. I mean to say at any level we must see the lines which only the cross section lines of the conceptual masss and not the objects or lines which are in below levels say in basement. Please check the attached image.

 

I have tried with view range, underlay and shaded model. In one machine it is showing correctly but in another machine it is not.original.jpeg

Message 7 of 19
vector2
in reply to: abir.acharjee

Okay, unless someone else can come in here and

solve your problem immediately, I'll try to help you

figure it out.

 

But if anyone thinks what I'm doing is worthless, then

they need to realize that no help at all is not better.

 

I've had imported mass elements that wouldn't cut in

plan view. It depends on where the mass came from.

 

Let's start with exactly where this element came from,

and exactly what it is. 

 

It might not be a bad idea to post the file here if want to.

You can right-click on any view in the project browser

and save and post that, because then it doesn't send

all the open views with it.

 

I should also mention that this might be slow because

I don't use Revit as a conceptual design tool. And I 

rarely deal with twisted architecture.

 


 

 

 

 

 

Message 8 of 19
abir.acharjee
in reply to: vector2

Thank you.

 

Here I have uploaded a simple example where if you go to level 3 you will find all the lines below are seen.

 

In level 3 i would need just the cross section to be shown as we show in architectural plans.

 

 

QUESTION5.jpg

Message 9 of 19
vector2
in reply to: abir.acharjee

There is the top of your mass loaded into the project and

everything below that top is cut.

 

But who knows if that's what you want.

 

Cut.PNG

Message 10 of 19
vector2
in reply to: abir.acharjee

There is the south elevation and everything below level 2

is not visable.

 

Cut 2.PNG

Message 11 of 19

Have you tried changing the view clip settings?

When you are in the plan view you want to modify, with nothing selected go to the properties palette.

Find the "Depth Clipping" setting.

Change  it from “No clip” to “Clip with line” or “Clip without line”.

 

Does that accomplish what you are trying to do?

 

Joe 

Message 12 of 19

Is this waht you are able to see in level 1 plan view?

Message 13 of 19

Hi Joe,

 

Thanks.

 

Yes I have tried, depth clipping (clip no lines), underlay (none) and view range(1,1,0,0). Any thought?

Message 14 of 19
vector2
in reply to: abir.acharjee

abir,

 

If you follow Joe's advice you will get nowhere. That's because

this mass has to be cut with a void in the mass editor. It WILL 

NOT cut with the view range Depth Clipping set to Clip with line.

 

The only reason it LOOKS like that's what I did, is because I

did some Revit gymnastics. I sent it out as a dwg and brought

it back into the family editor and loaded it into the project and

THEN it will cut with the view range. 

 

Depends a lot about what you want to do and how you want to do it.

 

 

 

Message 15 of 19
abir.acharjee
in reply to: vector2

Vector2,

 

Wonderfully amazing!

 

Your solution of taking out and bring in the mass is quite right I believe.

 

Do you think there can be some setting soemwhere to show the below portions of the mass or make the lines type/ colour of these lines to white or invisible although it is present?

 

Also it would be great if you can share how your great techniques of taking the mass out and in.

 

Thanks.

Message 16 of 19
vector2
in reply to: abir.acharjee

1. In a 3D wireframe view of this mass, and from the
Application menu, export to dwg.

2. Give it a name and save on your desktop. (Uncheck
Export views on sheets... probably doesn't matter)

3. Application menu> New> Family> Generic Template.

4. In the family editor, Insert Tab> Import CAD.

5. Change colors to black and white, (probably already
black), then click on the dwg on your desktop.

6. Don't touch anything in the family editor just click
load into project.
(Although you will probably want to take it back into
the family editor to scale it).

7. Then in the project, place that component on level one.

Message 17 of 19

There is absolutely no need to do this in CAD, then import CAD into Revit, and all that. The OP should do some research about this topic. It is already explained in Wikihelp. Start from  "Mass Floors Overview".

 

I think a forum is a good place for orientation and discussion, but should not be understood as a replacement for training.

 

 


Alfredo Medina _________________________________________________________________ ______
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Message 18 of 19
vector2
in reply to: abir.acharjee

abir,

 

Like I said, unless you cut it with a void in the mass editor, that's

what you have to do.

 

Unless Alfredo can show us a third way. Let's all wait and see

what he comes up with.

Message 19 of 19
vector2
in reply to: Alfredo_Medina

Alfredo,

 

I don't disagree with your holistic approach to learning Revit,

but the OP wanted to know how to cut this geometry in plan with

the view range. They even posted images of what they thought

it should look like. That's why I asked them several times to be

sure what they wanted to do.

 

I did tell them about cutting the geometry in the mass editor,

but that's not what they wanted to do. When I showed them

how to do what THEY wanted to do, they knew that was what

they were looking for.

 

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