2015 revit Files convert to 2014?

2015 revit Files convert to 2014?

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2015 revit Files convert to 2014?

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Hi im working with a 2014 version of Revit at home and I have a 2015 version at School, can i convert my projects from the 2015 files to 2014?

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Message 2 of 19

L.Maas
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Alexander,

 

See THIS POST from earlier today.

 

 

Louis

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Please mention Revit version, especially when uploading Revit files.

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DarrenP
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short answer is no

there is no saving down in revit thats an Autocad feature

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newtron31
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This is a monopoly and unacceptable.

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Anonymous
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@newtron31 wrote:

This is a monopoly and unacceptable.


this is nothing new

Revit has never been able to do this

you wanting Revit to be like Autocad not going to happen

Message 6 of 19

newtron31
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Never said it was AutoCAD. It is a joke you have to upgrade everytime your client does. Monopoly plain and simple. Some people dont like to hear truth.

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chrisplyler
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A monopoly? You mean that one company owns Revit and offers it the way they see fit? Okay, sure, that's a monopoly in the same way that McDonnalds owns the Big Mac and doesn't have to serve it with sourdough buns if they don't want to.

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SteveKStafford
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People often regard saving a file from one format to another as a trivial matter. As software evolves and new features are introduced these new things have no equivalent representation in the older format. Even Microsoft Word or Excel warns us when we save a file to an older version and those are much simpler elements. For example, with Revit Parts were introduced. If we could save to an older version that did not know what Parts are how should that transition be handled? What should the developers decide to do with them? What can they become and retain some usefulness?

With AutoCAD there are new features that can survive a trip backward, like Tables can be reduced to text and lines so it still looks like a table but is really less elegant than the Tables they came from. If the file is then saved in the most current version there is no "make me back into a table assumption" so fidelity is lost. It is difficult to allow for forward saving (upgrading) too. Nobody is very pleased if they upgrade a file and something breaks. Saving backward is most assuredly going to break elements the more object oriented our design tools become and evolve.

Revit's founders chose to eliminate the complexity and development distraction of saving backward at the outset. Most software like Revit does too even if they don't acknowledge it outright. They may allow saving backward in concept but there is always some loss of fidelity or utility in the process. Revit does permit exporting data to other formats to permit it being referenced in some way by other tools but it remains impractical to expect casual backward and forward file translation.

When Revit was introduced in 2000 it was a rental, we paid monthly and internet access was required. Using the latest version was expected, required. That's never changed even when Autodesk purchased Revit Technology Corporation in 2002. They just made it possible to buy a perpetual license like their other software. Conceptually though nothing has changed. Autodesk has a legacy of customers who transition from AutoCAD where it is normal to ignore a new release for several years before upgrading. That is possible because the rate of change for AutoCAD has generally been much less aggressive than with Revit which is much younger and has different objectives.

It is easy to have access to the latest version at all times, subscription. Fwiw Autodesk recently announced that new licenses will be all subscription based (rental) going forward so the concept that Revit embraced in 2000 has come full circle.

I'm not always pleased with Autodesk's choices and how they affect me as a customer but no company is perfect. I'm writing this post on an iPad that can't just give me bloody arrow keys (without an external keyboard). Instead I have to use a goofy fussy magnifying glass to reposition the cursor.

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Anonymous
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there is no way to open revit 2015 file into the 2014

 

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Message 10 of 19

Anonymous
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This is perhaps the greatest reason to incorporate SketchUp into your AutoCAD Arsenal. Whith SketchUp and AutoCAD you can work with ANY subcontractor, or group of individuals using any version of either. You get BIM and an affordable set of software that any of your collaborators on any project can use. Best of all, if your Engineers or Architects need to view and perhaps change a few items for thier use, ShetchUp is free, or only $695.00 so I would highly recommend setting up your office with a rental version of AutoCAD LT ($35/Mo.) And SketchUp ($95/Yr) to do ALL your Archtectural needs. SketchUP even has an Android viewer that is fantastic ($9.99) for showing your clients what you have done. I gota say I love the Ruby Scripts that drive Sketchup. It's like back to the good old days in AutoCAD when you could just email John Walker and talk to him about a new lisp routine that you wrote. Check it out you WILL LOVE it!

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ToanDN
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I personally love SketchUp but saying it is a BIM solution, even when combined with AutoCAD, is a bit of a stretch.
Message 12 of 19

Anonymous
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No seriously, If you do just a little research  components or check out  videos you will see immediately how effective it is as a BIM software. I use a plugin called cutlist, to tell me how much material and what kind when doing woodworking, I've even started using some of the European plugins for roofing and walls etc. there are a ton of plugins that are either free or to pay for. There is one that even does time maintenance, and one that you can buy that figures your scheduling within a project. It is most definitely BIM capable. BIM is NOT what kind of software you use, it is WHAT IT DOES! So many people think it has to be Revit to be BIM, they are wrong! Autodesk merely upsured the definition for their software. And they do a great job at it. How many DOT projects can you find that DEMAND Autodesk products? How many Government buildings that DEMAND Revit, and demand it in the most time consuming way? That is flat wrong and their lobbying efforts are the single most reason for it. These guys are the "Corporation Government" that so many of us wish would stay out of politics and let the world evolve as it needs to. Do you realize their head office is located at 1 Market Place in San Fransisco? One of the most expensive pieces of property in the United States. And YOUR money put them there. That and the tactics they use to force us all into upgrade after upgrade, with little to no free support, or support of any kind. And just how usefull are those upgrades? Look at Revit. If anyone on your team has a newer version, how does that fit into your scheduling? You know what you do, you just do NOT hire them to work withyou, you find someone else that has the same version as you do. And then lets talk about controlling the State of Architecture. I can tell, simply by looking at the building, whether or not Revit was used. It has either Flat, or Single Pitched roof system. Some of them at odd angles to make up for the fact that the software the Architect is using, dictates the type of building they design. Look to Euope for your best designers, they are NOT controlled by Autodesk, there are a lot more types of software used, and the building designs show it. And there are a lot of softeware programes there, that are also BIM, without being Revit.

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Anonymous
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but you can always remove the pickles if you dont want them.............or ask for mustard.....

 

Message 14 of 19

Anonymous
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Hello Autodesk Teamz please... make a option same like Autocad (save as to lower version)  

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Message 15 of 19

Mahmoud.Ziedan
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Unfortunately, we cannot go back to any older versions in Revit.I think Autodesk put those constraints to force users buying the newer version every year, or maybe there are some hidden technical reasons....
I recommend to always use the latest minus 1.Simply if the latest is 2016 use 2015, until the new release.


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Message 16 of 19

Anonymous
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right mohmoud ,they know vrymuch , but they won't give

Regards,
Faris.PK
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Message 17 of 19

lg
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you are quite right, with an anual subscription fee for 3.300,- USD in Norway they cant let people wander away with old version. Craz

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Leif gunnar Karlstad
Norway
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chrisplyler
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Forcing users to upgrade is a nice bonus for them, sure. But the inability to downgrade is naturally inherent in in complex Revit files. With each new version there are some items that just can't be handled by earlier versions.

 

xtn

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Anonymous
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Thaaanks.......
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