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Buy a 1.5 Suite

Status: New Idea
by Contributor djovica30 on ‎12-15-2013 04:56 PM

Why don't you sell a 1.5 Suite, where customers can buy a 1.5 Suite and use two suite products simulataneously? i.e. One guy using inventor, one guy using showcase, 3ds Max or sketchbook designer or AutoCAD, etc.. but you can't use two instances of the same product.


Many of my clients want to be able to use a second program in the suite for short term stints like marketing doing visuals or the product development manager using sketchbook, etc. and it's notthe engineer who wants to use it.


Sell it as a SLM or NLM, charge 50% more on the licence and on the subs. It's one 360 account.

If they need another user, (e.g. one uses Inventor, one uses AutoCAD, one uses Sketchbook), then they can pay another 50%, an add-on to the 1.5 and make it a 2.0, 2.5, etc. but if they need two seats of Inventor, they buy two PrDS suites.


That way you're actually getting the suite to do what it was intended to do, growing the pool of licences and integrating it better in the workplace. In its current form its only being used by the designers or engineers who are too busy doing their work and are not utilising the suite to it's full potential. The engineer has enough work on his plate than to also learn 3ds Max when there's a guy in marketing already that knows how to use it.


Clients don't see the value of buying 2 PrDS' when the second user is only using it for Sketchbook or knocking up a quick AutoCAD drawing or doing a minor edit.


Instead of someone buying PrDS and then AutoCAD Electrical becuase they can't afford 2x rPDS-P's, they can buy a PrDS-P 1.5 and have both mech and elec guys working inconjunction and both enjoy the benefits of the suite too.

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we use VaultPro 2014 and we still have the issue, that only in the Vaultbrowser the fields from Vault are available to show (like eg. description or materialnumber).

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In the Modelbrowser it is not available (look at the lower screenshot). I miss these functions in the vault browser!

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My idea is to merge this to browsers together, so you do not need to change every time between these two.

Or to make all features available in Vault browser

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Upgrading to the latest version

Status: New Idea
by itravers on ‎08-28-2013 01:07 AM

Hi All,


I have being installing upgrades of these product suites for a few years now. The last couple of years, the amount of software that has to get uninstalled before you install the latest version is getting very time consuming. I only have 6 machines to look after and I fit it in around my actual engineering role.


I would find it really useful if on the next version, there were a tick box on the setup menu that said 'automatically uninstall previous version'.


That way I could set it off in the evening, let it run overnight to remove the old software and install the new software, come in in the morning to a rebooted machine ready to go  - all without the need for user interaction. It would be even better if I could configure the template paths as part of the setup, then it really would be ready to go, just link it to the vault and the user is away.


Anyway, it's just a thought. :smileyhappy:

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Undo Event

Status: New Idea
by odk4548 on ‎08-21-2014 12:09 PM

You should be able to select an area and undo only in the area selected.

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2d adaptive component functionality

Status: New Idea
by wruffenach on ‎08-19-2014 11:56 AM

When will there be some Adaptive Component functionality for 2d families in Revit? Being able to build "Detail Items" adaptive component families with point snapping and repeat devide symbolic lines, would be extremely useful functionality!!!

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Revit Mep

Status: New Idea
by chris.jones on ‎07-17-2014 10:38 PM

Have the ability to split ductwork into multiple lengths in Revit MEP, just like Autocad MEP.


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Point Cloud Data

Status: New Idea
by tom.mcnulty on ‎06-27-2014 05:59 AM

The majority of my work involves the registration, analysis, manipulation and tracing of point cloud data (PCD). Below is a list of problems I face with PCD in the Product Design Suite (PDS) and features of other software packages that I find useful and would like to see included in Autodesk products.


I have seen some improvements with the handling of PCD within the PDS in the last couple of years however it does not cater for all of my PCD needs and as a result my workflow is still very disjointed with a wide range of software packages including: Faro Scene, Bentely Pointools, Pointools 4 Rhino, Recap and Inventor. I would love to solely use Autodesk products but they don't cut it at the moment.


I use Faro Scene for registration; I am aware that Recap Pro for an additional £3k plus cost per year. If it included additional features such as point cloud selection and RGB editing (painting tools) then I may be able to justify this expenditure as it would remove my requirment for Bentley Pointools which is fantastic for this and for creating animations. The RGB editing is a necessity for me as I often have to refine data prior to creating animations and simply deleting out people and objects just leaves big holes. 


One thing Recap does very well is handle the PCD. The scans can be navigated through with ease, rotating views etc is very smooth. Once the same scans are opened in Inventor things start to slow down. I have a 24gb computer with a decent graphics card which runs PCD in other packages seemlessly however once more than two or three scans are imported into Inventor it really struggles with rotating the data. Also taking sections of the data is quite a laborious process; I find Pointools 4 Rhino much more user friendly as it handles the PCD well and section lines can be dragged through the data. The addition of section lines in Inventor would be fantastic.



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Vault family

Status: New Idea
by bendesign04 on ‎12-31-2013 05:57 PM

I would like to see the traditionally vault family of pay for products in the suites so vault pro in the ultimate suite, vault collaboration in the premium suite and vault work group in standard.

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When I export a curves dwg from sketchbook to Inventor, striaght lines have 3 curve points, so to add dimensions and getting the concept to the engineering phase is time consuming and it's easier just to redraw the thing.


I have grips set to zero, so it should just export as one straight line.

If I export a square with fillets, it exports it as like 15 entities or something silly, when it should only be a simple export.


Another thing is that when I export, iI don't have the ability to delet the fillets and insert a new fillet, so the flexibility isn't there.


If I'm doing something wrong please let me know, because the sales videos show importing the sketch and doing an extrude without doing any constraints or dimensions, which is not practical.

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Revit for Product Desgn Suite

Status: New Idea
by Contributor Hyncharas on ‎07-29-2013 08:14 AM

I know it sounds odd, but suppose you are designing a new product for a business, and you don't have Building/Factory Design Suite.  Without it you can't import the model into a simulated environment, unless you use simply 3ds Max or Maya.


Traditionally I use LumenRT 4 Studio by E-On Software to demonstrate how a product may benefit a workplace, or work in conjunction with another product.  This incorporates a Revit plug-in so I can just drop the object into a 3d visualisation...


It would be great if Revit or a new, limited scope of the software was part of PDS.

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Alias Automotive instead of Alias Design?

Status: New Idea
by Contributor Hyncharas on ‎07-27-2013 09:27 PM

Product Design Suite is known for making products for many different industries, but much of these have mechanical and hydraulic components in them, which is why the suite is used a lot in the development of equipment for Construction and Agriculture - combine harvesters, tractors, bulldozers, etc.  Therefore it struck me as odd, given the suite has "Mechanical" and "Electrical" aspects of AutoCAD, why it features Alias Design; not Alias Automotive used to create one of the most widespread products available.


Whilst the manufacture of automobiles and other modes of transport are an industry, the vehicles themselves are built for demographics of end-users based on a list of specific criteria, much like a vacuum cleaner or washing machine.  Alias Automotive also offers all the features of Design, in addition to more advanced visualisation tools that are useful in easily adjusting the surface of a model, so it may more efficient in the final product.


I will stress, however, should Automotive be added to PD Ultimate, Premium and Standard could also include Alias Design so customers in the lower suites still benefit from the change.

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Managing Suite Network Licenses (Automated Tiered Network License Control)

Status: New Idea
by Valued Contributor pmascaro ‎01-03-2013 09:56 AM - edited ‎01-03-2013 09:58 AM

There has to be a better way to deploy licensing across corporations. I'm in the process of upgrading our North American licensing to 1 Consolidated licenses server.


There should be away to install any application or suite in any order and have the license server see and use the lowest license in the pool of licenses. I understand that this was an oversight at first but I would say the workaround should not be considered long term solution and some serious thought should go into managing license pools from within suites.


What the current license structure means for me:


I will have to create multiple deployments onto an external hard Drive. Then send a drive to all IT managers and make sure they first install AutoCAD, then IDSS, then IDSP, then P&ID, then PDSU.


I also for a fail Safe. I have to exclude the lower apps from the higher deployments. (eg. IDSP will exclude Map 3D and AutoCAD from the deployment)


This is a logistical nightmare and makes annual subscription upgrades extremely difficult for my dept. Alone, much less when I strait building the deployments for North America.


I hope this helps and that you consider building tiered licensing into your network suites. You have tiered solutions for applications now (suites) but no tiered solution for licensing these suits... Installing in order is a workaround not a long term solution.


Push the suites for all that they are worth, but please don't forget to clean the crumbs that are left behind...

This is a mess....



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