PLM 360 General Discussion

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ricardot
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Protection against intellectual property theft

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04-23-2012 11:41 AM

As an Autodesk Data Management partner, we are currently working very hard to spread the gospel about PLM 360.

 

An objection that comes up often (but not all the time, fortunately) is about the protection of intellectual property and trade secrets that may be hosted by cloud-based applications.

 

One of the worst-case scenarios involve (it seems far-fetched to me, but it has been raised on more than one occasion), an authorized user from the datacenter (e.g. an administrator who has BOTH drug abuse and gambling problems :smileymad:) successfully extracts confidential data and sends it to a malevolent third party.

 

Is there any protection in PLM 360 (such as encryption of stored data, on top of HTTPS encryption) to counter such an Apocalyptic scenario?

 

Thanks,

 

Ricardo TALBOT
IRISCO

Ricardo,

 

Please review the attached brochure describing our Secure, Cloud-Based PLM.

 

Michelle

 

PLM 360 Security White Paper

As a company we understand that our customer’s data is important and we respect intellectual property (IP).  We want to make sure you know that when you use Autodesk PLM 360 or other cloud services from Autodesk, you own and control your own IP.  The words in each of our terms of service govern your use of the services but we wanted to share some background with you about why we need the rights granted by you in these agreements. The specific terms are available here: ww.autodesk.com/termsofservice    

 

The use of Autodesk’s cloud services involves your digital content and information which means Autodesk needs you to give us certain rights in order to provide these services.  For example, the systems providing the services in the cloud need to do things like “display” “modify” “reproduce” and “transmit” your content and data as part of providing the services.  Without the ability for us to do these things with your information and content, these cloud services could not function.  The agreements also limit our rights.  For example, our rights in our Autodesk Cloud terms are limited to the context of providing, maintaining, repairing, protecting, organizing or otherwise administering the services and improving and modifying the services.  The license is limited to this and its purpose is to make sure we can offer you these services.

Scott,

 

This is kind of a two fold set of questions in here.

 

1. Do you own your content.  For sure the 2.1 section covers that - we reworded that section (and others) to be much more clear

2. Is there encryption.

 

The answer to the second one is yes - and two fold

 

a) We encrypt over the wire - this is "HTTPS" like you would expect with any web site.  You can easily see this via the browser

b) We also encryp "At Rest".  This means when any data is stored on our drives that data is encrypted as well.  This means... in the "literal" case that was stated at the beginning - IF someone could physically access the data; that would be encrypted.

 

HTH

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michelle.stone
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Re: Protection against intellectual property theft

04-23-2012 12:51 PM in reply to: ricardot

Ricardo,

 

Please review the attached brochure describing our Secure, Cloud-Based PLM.

 

Michelle

 

PLM 360 Security White Paper



Michelle Stone
PLM Product Manager
Autodesk, Inc.
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ricardot
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Re: Protection against intellectual property theft

04-26-2012 04:16 AM in reply to: michelle.stone

Beautiful...

 

Thanks a lot, Michelle.

 

Ricardo.

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cadhawk
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Message 4 of 18 (1,076 Views)

Re: Protection against intellectual property theft

05-07-2012 11:17 AM in reply to: ricardot

I have somewhat the same concerns with intellectual property.  I understand 360 it is a secure site, but does the information that is hosted/processed on the 360 cloud become Autodesk's property in any way.  I have heard that renderings that have been processed using the 360 cloud and been used for promotional Autodesk material without permission.  This all comes into play with clients that require you to sign a confidentiality agreement prior to starting a project for them.  I am concerned that if that confidential project uses 360 that an outside entity, i.e. autodesk, has the ability to use the confidential information without the consent of the project team and expose the client to the world.  Please help me out with any information you can.

 

Thanks

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piggeej
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Re: Protection against intellectual property theft

05-07-2012 11:27 AM in reply to: cadhawk

Matt,

 

Pease see the TOS for clarfication in this:

 

2.1      Your Rights.  As between You and Autodesk, and subject to  Section 2.2 (License by You; Disclosure), You and Your licensors have and will own all right, title, and interest in and to Your Content.



Joe Piggee
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cadhawk
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Re: Protection against intellectual property theft

05-07-2012 11:43 AM in reply to: ricardot

So if I am reading this correctly Autodesk can use any information stored on your 360 account without your knowledge/permission? If that is true you would be violating a Non-disclosure Agreement with your client.  Please correct me if I am wrong.

 See 2.2 or the Terms of Service

 
Autodesk 360 Terms of Service (rev. 9/6/2011)

2.Proprietary Rights

            2.1      Your Rights.  As between You and Autodesk, and subject to  Section 2.2 (License by You; Disclosure), You and Your licensors have and will own all right, title, and interest in and to Your Content.

            2.2      License by You; Disclosure. Autodesk (or its sublicensees) may exercise the license set forth in this Section only for purposes of providing, maintaining, repairing, protecting, organizing or otherwise administering the Service and Service Site in the ordinary course of Autodesk’s (or its designated third parties’) provision of the Service and improving and modifying the Service, including rights to extract, compile, aggregate, synthesize, use, and otherwise analyze all or any portion of Your Content and information, and to disclose Your Content and information and the results of any such analysis in aggregated form or any other form that does not specifically identify You or the source of Your Content or information. Notwithstanding anything in these Terms to the contrary, You hereby grant Autodesk (or warrant that the licensor of such rights has expressly granted) a perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, royalty-free, paid-up, worldwide, sublicensable (through multiple tiers) license to store, display, reproduce, modify, use and transmit Your Content, and further waive “moral” rights or other rights with respect to attribution of authorship or integrity of Your Content that You may have under any applicable law and under any legal theory.  In addition, You acknowledge and agree that Autodesk may disclose Your Content to provide the Service to You (including, without limitation, Your election to share Your Content under Sections 3.3 and 3.4), to comply with any legal obligations or governmental or regulatory body request (including subpoenas or court orders) or as part of a legal proceeding involving Autodesk Parties.

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scottmoyse
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Re: Protection against intellectual property theft

05-07-2012 01:50 PM in reply to: cadhawk

I think its vitally important for us and likely a lot of other companies that this grey area is cleared up. I can see the need for Autodesk to access the information and on occasion manipulate it for technical reasons, but it seems little off that they can use it for whatever they want. I can't imagine that is the actual intent of that wording.

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ricardot
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Re: Protection against intellectual property theft

05-07-2012 06:12 PM in reply to: ricardot

"You hereby grant Autodesk (or warrant that the licensor of such rights has expressly granted) a perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, royalty-free, paid-up, worldwide, sublicensable (through multiple tiers) license to store, display, reproduce, modify, use and transmit Your Content, and further waive “moral” rights or other rights with respect to attribution of authorship or integrity of Your Content that You may have under any applicable law and under any legal theory."

 

Yikes!

 

Are we sure this is not some kind of copy/paste done in error?

 

Ricardo.

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scottmoyse
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Re: Protection against intellectual property theft

05-07-2012 06:47 PM in reply to: ricardot

This should probably be in a thread which hasn't been solved....

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Message 10 of 18 (1,022 Views)

Re: Protection against intellectual property theft

05-08-2012 09:57 AM in reply to: scottmoyse

I agree, this could be a very important to client supplier relationship and needs to be addressed.  How does a thread get moved to an unsolved state?

 

Thanks

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