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Review PDMS Model in Navisworks

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19820415
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Review PDMS Model in Navisworks

there are two questions about Reviewing PDMS model in Navisworks

1,when import PDMS model (*.RVM) model into Navisworks,the color is not the same as the original model.

for example,in original model,the color of pipe is red,whille after importing into Navisworks,the color maybe white.

so if there is any solution to  make the  color to be the same.Or if there is any wrong action?

 

2,if we wanto read the attribute of PDMS model,we can export them into a *.att file,but when we review PDMS model in Navisworks,the attribute is half-baked,many attributes are lost.

what cause it happen?If there is any wrong action when export the *.att file?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

rong.li@dms365.com

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Message 2 of 11
dacurry52
in reply to: 19820415

I'm also trying to find a color map for Navisworks.  So far I have only been able to export to Navisworks colors 101-107.  Any other number I try produces gray.  The colors that do map are not the same as the colors being exported.  If anyone has a color map for Navisworks, it would really be a big help.  We are not requiring a mapping of texture maps, just a simple mapping to get the color for red in PDMS to be red in Navisworks and so forth.

 

I am also trying out the import of attribute information, and will be trying to use the datal method since we need to get data from selected parts of the heirarchy and not just the current element.  What I've seen so far isn't very useful to us either.

Message 3 of 11
dacurry52
in reply to: 19820415

After doing a little digging around, I've found out that Navis looks for a file called colors.txt. It is located in your windows user directory under Application Data\...Navisworks...\rvm.  This directory may be hidden on your system.  The file defines a PDMS color and a mapping to a named color at the top of the file, the how the color is defined in Navisworks using a Percent RGB value is defined in the lower portion of the file.  Do an internet search for 'percent RGB' and you should get some on-line references that help out with defining colors.  The only problem I ran into is that colors don't match exactly what you see in PDMS.  For example Percent RGB for the color 'Brown' looks more like Reddish Brown.  There are a couple of sample files provided with Navisworks Review that can be used as a basis for developing a color translation file.

Message 4 of 11
19820415
in reply to: dacurry52

i have copied the colors.txt file to my local folder:Application Data\...Navisworks...\rvm

but then when i open Rvm file,it's still the same.

All models display as grey.

Is there any other settings?

 

Best regards

Rong.li

Message 5 of 11
dacurry52
in reply to: 19820415

It sounds like you still have to set up some rules in PDMS Design to get the colors in Navisworks.

The particular pull-down menu you need is Utilities>Export>Create... or Modify.

Attached are a couple of screen shots with some further instructions.

 

Message 6 of 11

Only numbers 0 thro 100 are available to define the colours used in the color definitions in the colors.txt file. Navisworks uses a range of 0 thro 255 which is one of the reasons why we expereince problems with matching colours between the two applications.

 

One way around this is when the RVM file (and attributes) have been converted and saved as a NWD file. Create an NWF that refrences the NWD. Set your required colours in the NWF (color override). if the NWD is regenerated from a newer version of the RVM, the colours should still be set and used when opening the NWF (so long as the file name remains constant).

 

The main downside of this is :

 

Any users using Freedom, cannot open NWF files.

The colours appear to be set at primative level, any colours set at zone level do not filter through to new components. (hope that makes sense).

 

 

 

Message 7 of 11
udayaprakesh
in reply to: 19820415

HI good evening to all, i dont know to convert pdms to Navis ,please abody help to me

Thanks 

 

Udaya

Message 8 of 11
dgorsman
in reply to: udayaprakesh

Search here for using Navisworks to view RVM files.  Your AVEVA support contacts can help you with generating RVMs from PDMS.

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Message 9 of 11
timasirin
in reply to: dacurry52

Hi,

there are a method to extract RVM file from PDMS automaticaly without usinf macro??

Thanks in advance.

Regards

Message 10 of 11
chan_tnx
in reply to: dacurry52

hi,

 

I've been using the method of defining colors from pdms to navis, but i can't figure out how to set the transparency automatically,

I would like to set certain items such as volumes and access to be transparent when I extract from pdms, 

may i ask the procedure on how to do it?

 

thanks!

Message 11 of 11

A simple method would be to set the transparency in an NWF file that references the original NWD

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