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*Cross, Gary
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Pardims have wrong dimscale factor in view

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09-20-2001 07:15 AM
Is there any other one else having this problem or is it just me?

Some pardims have the wrong dim scale factor in a views ( example-scale is
1:2 but dimscale factor lists as is -4 ) & it's causing me headaches.

I can't verify if it was before or after SP1.

Gary Cross
gcross@crossdesign.com
*Cross, Gary
Message 2 of 10 (91 Views)

Pardims have wrong DIMLFAC factor in view

09-20-2001 08:36 AM in reply to: *Cross, Gary
That should read DIMLFAC not dimscale-big difference
And, I can't seem to change it by changing the DIMLFAC & updating the dim.

It's normally automatic but does anyone know how to correct the DIMLFAC on
pardims like this as a work around?

Gary Cross
gcross@crossdesign.com


"Gary Cross" wrote in message
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> Is there any other one else having this problem or is it just me?
>
> Some pardims have the wrong dim scale factor in a views ( example-scale is
> 1:2 but dimscale factor lists as is -4 ) & it's causing me headaches.
>
> I can't verify if it was before or after SP1.
>
> Gary Cross
> gcross@crossdesign.com
>
>
>
>
>
*Sense\, CAD
Message 3 of 10 (91 Views)

Pardims have wrong DIMLFAC factor in view

09-20-2001 08:36 AM in reply to: *Cross, Gary
Gary,

I have seen and reported (verifed) a serious bug with MDT6 dimensioning. I'm
not sure if this is the same as the trouble you are having but it is worth
mentioning anyway.

If you have 2 overlapping MDT6 views which are at different scales, MDT
power dimensioning will sometimes get confused about which view the
dimension is attached to and set the linear scale for the dimension off the
wrong viewport. So in effect your dimension value is wrong. I discovered
this AFTER the fact that it cost my company a lot of down time and money.

So the moral is if you have overlapping views in MDT6 keep a eye on your
dimensions as they could be wrong. MDT5 never done this BTW.
And yes I have plenty of examples of this that I can post if req.

Brian Corbin
CAD Sense

"Gary Cross" wrote in message
news:8651D8D10C4DE01FE71E1E528041612C@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> That should read DIMLFAC not dimscale-big difference
> And, I can't seem to change it by changing the DIMLFAC & updating the dim.
>
> It's normally automatic but does anyone know how to correct the DIMLFAC on
> pardims like this as a work around?
>
> Gary Cross
> gcross@crossdesign.com
>
>
> "Gary Cross" wrote in message
> news:46834B4F8C3E7FEDCA37C535B5051C23@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Is there any other one else having this problem or is it just me?
> >
> > Some pardims have the wrong dim scale factor in a views ( example-scale
is
> > 1:2 but dimscale factor lists as is -4 ) & it's causing me headaches.
> >
> > I can't verify if it was before or after SP1.
> >
> > Gary Cross
> > gcross@crossdesign.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
*Keller, Kent
Message 4 of 10 (91 Views)

Pardims have wrong DIMLFAC factor in view

09-20-2001 11:46 AM in reply to: *Cross, Gary
Brian

Are you sure they have to overlap? As I remember it was just the sequence of
dimensioning one view and then dimensioning the other that is a different scale.

--
Kent Keller
http://kwik-mcad.scriptmania.com/
Check out the Mechanical Desktop FAQ @
http://mymcad.com/
See the MDT/ Inventor wishlists!
www.cadsense.co.nz/wishmain.htm


"Brian Corbin (CAD Sense)" wrote in message
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>
>
> Gary,
>
> I have seen and reported (verifed) a serious bug with MDT6 dimensioning. I'm
> not sure if this is the same as the trouble you are having but it is worth
> mentioning anyway.
>
> If you have 2 overlapping MDT6 views which are at different scales, MDT
>
*Sense\, CAD
Message 5 of 10 (91 Views)

Pardims have wrong DIMLFAC factor in view

09-20-2001 11:46 AM in reply to: *Cross, Gary
Kent,

As far as I have seen it has only been with overlapping views. This whole
(EDITED) bug quite frankly scares the (EDITED) out of me. If ya cant trust the dims
coming from your CAD package, what can you trust. It has been WEEKS since
this bug has been verifed, and I have heard absolute zip from Autodesk
regarding if it is fixed or even being worked on.

Dont get me started on this thing. It already cost my company a LOT of
money. Im biting my tounge about all things Autodesk at the moment.

Brian

--







Brian Corbin
CAD Sense
025 22 99 415
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"Kent Keller" wrote in message
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> Brian
>
> Are you sure they have to overlap? As I remember it was just the sequence
*Cross, Gary
Message 6 of 10 (91 Views)

Pardims have wrong DIMLFAC factor in view

09-20-2001 12:08 PM in reply to: *Cross, Gary
Brian,
Overlapping view ports makes about as much sense as anything else I could
come up with. Your right, I never had this happen in MDT5 or prior.

This an extremely serious bug whatever the cause. It makes it very difficult
to have confidence in dimensions. I posted previously how difficult it is to
find the problems dims if the scales used are very close to one another.

The text message for SP1 was vague about the actual fixes. Does anyone know
if this was addressed? Perhaps views from Sp1 on won't have this problem.
But Sp1 does not seem to fix existing dimension scale factor inaccuracies.

Gary Cross
gcross@crossdesign.com




"Brian Corbin (CAD Sense)" wrote in message
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>
>
> Gary,
>
> I have seen and reported (verifed) a serious bug with MDT6 dimensioning.
I'm
> not sure if this is the same as the trouble you are having but it is worth
> mentioning anyway.
>
> If you have 2 overlapping MDT6 views which are at different scales, MDT
> power dimensioning will sometimes get confused about which view the
> dimension is attached to and set the linear scale for the dimension off
the
> wrong viewport. So in effect your dimension value is wrong. I discovered
> this AFTER the fact that it cost my company a lot of down time and money.
>
> So the moral is if you have overlapping views in MDT6 keep a eye on your
> dimensions as they could be wrong. MDT5 never done this BTW.
> And yes I have plenty of examples of this that I can post if req.
>
> Brian Corbin
> CAD Sense
>
> "Gary Cross" wrote in message
> news:8651D8D10C4DE01FE71E1E528041612C@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > That should read DIMLFAC not dimscale-big difference
> > And, I can't seem to change it by changing the DIMLFAC & updating the
dim.
> >
> > It's normally automatic but does anyone know how to correct the DIMLFAC
on
> > pardims like this as a work around?
> >
> > Gary Cross
> > gcross@crossdesign.com
> >
> >
> > "Gary Cross" wrote in message
> > news:46834B4F8C3E7FEDCA37C535B5051C23@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Is there any other one else having this problem or is it just me?
> > >
> > > Some pardims have the wrong dim scale factor in a views (
example-scale
> is
> > > 1:2 but dimscale factor lists as is -4 ) & it's causing me headaches.
> > >
> > > I can't verify if it was before or after SP1.
> > >
> > > Gary Cross
> > > gcross@crossdesign.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
*Keller, Kent
Message 7 of 10 (91 Views)

Pardims have wrong DIMLFAC factor in view

09-20-2001 02:03 PM in reply to: *Cross, Gary
Brian

About lost you in the mix here.... your computer clock appears to be offby about 12
hours
Not to set you off more, but ......
Here is a post from a while back from Chris Hutchinson. I haven't had a chance to
see if this was fixed in SP1 or not.

Try the following scenario:

1)Create a Revolved part.
2) Create a "End View" of the part
3) Create a Full Section View of the part
4) Create a Detail View based of a intersection of the Full Section View
that is Scaled 2X size.
5) Create a AMPOWERDIM dimension on the detail.
6) Create a AMREFDIM dimension on the Full Section View of the same feature
dimensioned in the detail

Are the dimensions showing the SAME values?...Mine DON'T because the
AMPOWERDIM command has created a Dim OVERRIDE Style with the Scale Factor
set for the Detail View, so now when I use AMREFDIM for the Full Section
View the OVERRIDE Style is used and a dimension is generated with the wrong
Scale Factor!!!

--
Kent Keller
http://kwik-mcad.scriptmania.com/
Check out the Mechanical Desktop FAQ @
http://mymcad.com/
See the MDT/ Inventor wishlists!
www.cadsense.co.nz/wishmain.htm


"Brian Corbin (CAD Sense)" wrote in message
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>
>
> Kent,
>
> As far as I have seen it has only been with overlapping views.
*Howard, Jeff
Message 8 of 10 (91 Views)

Pardims have wrong DIMLFAC factor in view

09-20-2001 06:16 PM in reply to: *Cross, Gary
Gary, see post "MDT6 Dimensioning Practices" (or something like that on
about 8/8).
Jeff
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Gary Cross wrote in message
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.....does anyone know how to correct the DIMLFAC on pardims like this as a
work around?

Gary Cross
gcross@crossdesign.com
*Autodesk\
Message 9 of 10 (91 Views)

Pardims have wrong DIMLFAC factor in view

09-20-2001 11:18 PM in reply to: *Cross, Gary
Brian,

The dimensioning problem you reported with overlapping viewports was
addressed with SP1.

Mike Dickason
Developer
Autodesk Mechanical Group

"Brian Corbin (CAD Sense)" wrote in message
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>
>
> Kent,
>
> As far as I have seen it has only been with overlapping views. This whole
> (EDITED) bug quite frankly scares the (EDITED) out of me. If ya cant trust
the dims
> coming from your CAD package, what can you trust. It has been WEEKS since
> this bug has been verifed, and I have heard absolute zip from Autodesk
> regarding if it is fixed or even being worked on.
>
> Dont get me started on this thing. It already cost my company a LOT of
> money. Im biting my tounge about all things Autodesk at the moment.
>
> Brian
>
> --
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Brian Corbin
> CAD Sense
> 025 22 99 415
> +64 3 327 22 26
> "Kent Keller" wrote in message
> news:1244D65586C4325DBE1CBA9FA5CF4DE1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Brian
> >
> > Are you sure they have to overlap? As I remember it was just the
sequence
*Howard, Jeff
Message 10 of 10 (91 Views)

Pardims have wrong DIMLFAC factor in view

09-21-2001 12:21 AM in reply to: *Cross, Gary
YES! It appears that sp1 fixed a basket full of dim (dimlfac, dim style,
amsymscale) problems. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Jeff
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Mike Dickason (Autodesk) wrote in message
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Brian,

The dimensioning problem you reported with overlapping viewports was
addressed with SP1.

Mike Dickason
Developer
Autodesk Mechanical Group
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