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Welds

Welds

Welds are not cosmetic, they serve a purpose in engineering and therefore should be fully functional in Inventor.

Inventor’s ability to handle welds is good, but not good enough.

 

Weldments

It is not unknown for a weld to be machined so that another component can be welded nearby. Unfortunately, you can prepare for a weld, create the weld, but can’t prepare for the second weld. Also, you can’t prepare the first weld, create the weld, machine it as the second weld will not see the machining. This needs resolving.

 

Parts and Features as Welds

Until the welds in Weldments create perfect welds in every situation that a welder can create welds in the workshop or field, we need to be able to create Parts or Features within Assemblies/Weldments that can be assigned an attribute of Weld or similar. Then the drawing manager would see the welds and respond as it does to weldments. The same could be done with Preparations and Machinings, these could also be Parts or Features.

 

Sheetmetal

It is common to get a flat-pattern; fold it, roll it, bend it and apply a weld. At the moment you have to place one SM part into a weldment to add the weld, pointless. Why not have a feature in Parts and Sheetmetal that could have the attribute of Weld. The same applies to preparation and machining.

 

Weld Calculators

You should be able to just select the Weld and bring up the relevant Calculator. Why do the Calculators produce an empty Assembly? What is that all about? Why not use the Weld Calculator to change either a Feature or Part into a Weld, allow the user to do the Calculations? Then the Drawing Manager would see the welds and would behave as it does with weldments.

 

Reports

Why does the Report Generator only report weld beads? It should be able to give full welding analysis reports if the weld calculators have been used. We should have Weld Analysis in a variety of formats as we can get FEA reports.

 

 

Welds are not cosmetic, they have a useful function to serve in engineering, but we need the information/reports to use them fully and we need Inventor to provide all the welds and complete reports in a format we can present to clients/customer.

 

 

Duncan Anderson

"Humour is one man shouting gibberish in the face of authority, and proving by fabricated insanity that nothing could be as mad as what passes for ordinary living." {Terence 'Spike' Milligan KBE (16 Apr 1918 – 27 Feb 2002)}

 

4 Comments
karthur1
Mentor

The weldment environment needs to be looked at and improved.  There has not been any major improvements since it was first introduced.

mikeh7
Collaborator

Weld Symbols

Why give the option to Create welding symbol from the IAM, but nothing populates from the data that creates the weld feature.  We enter the weld leg, intermittency..... for the weld then have to duplicate it on the Symbol portion.

 

Then go to IDW and create a weld symbol pulls off the iam weld symbol and make it 100% associated.

 

 

 

Can't have stages of welds.

  • Weld on parts 123.
  • Then assemble parts 456
  • Finally weld parts 789.

When go to IDW and use view reps showing stages of assembly/weld, can only turn on/off all welds.  Can't control visibility of individual welds.

 

 Thanks!

dan_butler_komatsu
Enthusiast

JoyGlobal: we need to be able to have machined cuts intersect with welds and remove the material at assemblies other than the same immediate assembly.  For example, a hold may need to pass through and intersect welds of lower sub-assemblies as well.

 

We are making our weldment assemblies and machining assemblies two different assemblies for various reasons, then we assemble the weldment into the machining weldment.  Then we make assembly cuts on the machining assembly but the welds are not intersected.

 

I agree that the other weldment features need overhauled in Inventor for more functionality as well.  I like the idea of being able to turn off individual welds.

 

One day at a gunslinger event in Novi, a developer asked if there were any other reasons we would need to add assembly features that add material to an assembly, well this could be a good reason to do so.  Add material for weld as an assembly feature that adds material then allow us to intersect this at any level where a machined feature passes through it.  We can also suppress individual ones that way as well, as features in an assembly.

 

 

maulik_patel
Autodesk

Hello,

 

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Thanks

Maulik Patel

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