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Raider_007

Better surface modeling inside Inventor

Status: Accepted
by Distinguished Contributor Raider_007 on ‎11-16-2012 03:35 AM

Hi we have Inventor and Product Design Suite and various other CAD packages. In our team often we have to do some surface modelling and to be honest Inventor just isn’t great at this at all and then we always have to revert back to Solidworks. Construction surfaces are not always enough guys really!

We need surfacing power like in Alias, Solid Works, Catia please!!! And no we don’t want to learn yet another product (Alias) with a completely different way of working and toolbar layout and , and , and… Solidworks has mastered this “One product many functionalities” approach and it works really great. Once you know SW you get into the other stuff easily because the environment is familiar. With Inventor you have to learn the product every time you want to do surface modelling because lets face it, you might not need to do it or use that functionality for months at a time…

Anyway it would be really cool to see the technology, that certainly exists, filter down into Inventor.

Status: Accepted
Accepted idea. Thanks!
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by Valued Contributor fprico on ‎03-20-2013 11:37 AM

Also I need presition and easy of use that you can not something like rhinoceros but like catia that you can make a blend between surfaces and then pick ends points of the blend and drag them where you want it. 

by Valued Contributor fprico on ‎03-21-2013 11:21 AM

I don t know too much about meshes, but I think that if they can not be fillet the edges of the mesh with a certain radius, is not to much useful

by Employee on ‎05-23-2013 01:40 PM
Status changed to: Accepted
Accepted idea. Thanks!
by *Expert Elite* on ‎10-11-2013 05:33 AM

I see that this is already accecpted, but I would like to make a suggestion for the improvement. In Fusion 360, when I am projecting a surface edge, I get a preview of the projection when I hoover over the edge.  That would be nice to have in Inventor.

by 121183ddp ‎12-21-2013 03:41 PM - edited ‎12-21-2013 03:53 PM

К информации для разработчиков Autodesk: наша компания рассматривала CAD для приобретения, начинали с Inventor, он нравился, но оказалось, что он не может нормально моделировать поверхности, в итоге мы попробовали SolidWorks -- он тормозил во время работы, теперь мы покупаем CATIA V5.

Как вы думаете, почему мы заплатили 35 000 $ за CATIA (3 модуля) вместо 7000 $ за весь Inventor?

 

 Я вам отвечу: нам нужен работающий инструмент для производства, потому что результат нам приносит деньги.

У вас много клиентов, потому что много компаний строит внутренние конструкции кораблей, трубопроводы, стальные рамы, но там где нужен промышленный дизайн, там не ваши клиенты. Поверхности плохие в Inventor. Не говорите про Alias, это отдельный продукт, его поверхности надо импортировать в CAD, у него нет связи с деревом построения модели изделия в CAD, что сильно тормозит процесс разработки.

 Поверхности должны быть в CAD, тогда Inventor может быть конкурентноспособным.

 

Information for developers Autodesk: our company has CAD for acquisition, began with Inventor, he liked it, but it turned out that he could not properly simulate the surface, in the end, we tried the SolidWorks-it has stagnated during the work, now we buy CATIA V5.

Why do you think we paid $ 35,000 for CATIA (module 3) instead of $ 7,000 for the Inventor?

 

I shall answer you: the working tool for manufacture because the result to us brings money is necessary to us.


At you it is a lot of clients because many companies build internal designs of the ships, pipelines, steel frames, but there where the industrial design, there not your clients is necessary. Surfaces bad in Inventor. Do not speak about Alias, it is a separate product, its surfaces should be imported in CAD, it does not have communication with a tree of construction of model of a product in CAD, that process of development strongly brakes.

 Surfaces should be in CAD, then Inventor maybe competitive.

by 121183ddp ‎12-21-2013 04:01 PM - edited ‎12-21-2013 04:25 PM

Another replica. T-splines are cool, but not enough, need tools to work with surfaces like CATIA, Alias, Icem surfase, I think that those who work in modeling and industrial design will understand what I'm saying.

 

Industrial designers need high class surface, not rendering in CAD environment.

 

  Why do I render in real time in the Inventor, if I have nothing to render?

 

Your first task is to make industrial designers modeling tools at an acceptable level, focus your attention and render it a second.

Easier and faster to import a model once after design render than constantly repeatedly import surfaces from Alias, CATIA for design parts in Inventor, you can be sure of this. Those who really works can confirm my words. So many do design in CATIA, SolidWorks, and render in Keyshot, so the faster it turns out.

И еще одна реплика. T-splines это круто, но не достаточно, нужны инструменты для работы с поверхностями как у CATIA, Alias, Icem surfase, я думаю, что те, кто работает в моделинге и промышленном дизайне поймут о чем я говорю.

Промышленным дизайнерам нужны поверхности высокого класса, а не рендеринг в среде САПР.


Зачем мне рендеринг в реальном времени в Inventor, если мне нечего рендерить?

 

Ваша первая задача сделать промышленным дизайнерам инструменты моделирования на приемлемом уровне, сфокусируйте на этом ваше внимание, а в чем рендерить это дело второе.
 Проще и быстрей импортировать готовую модель один раз после дизайна в рендер, чем постоянно многократно импортировать поверхности из Alias, CATIA для доработки дизайна детали в Inventor , можете быть в этом уверенны.
 Те, кто реально работает может подтвердить мои слова. Поэтому многие делают дизайн в CATIA, SolidWorks, а рендерят в Keyshot, так в итоге быстрей получается.

by al_inventor on ‎02-04-2014 02:55 PM

Surface Modeling.
Autodesk Inventor surface modeling capability development in the years to do why not? Seriously advanced surface modeling options, to facilitate the work of users when do you plan to offer? In today's competitive industry of design software offers a lot of features must be able to simultaneously feature.
Machine design and prismatic parts drawing capabilities in Autodesk Inventor is doing fine. However, consumer products, automotive sector, especially in plastic molds and sheet metal molds, surface modeling capabilities (commands) is restricted users remain in a difficult situation. Products are forced to writhe or to develop a Turkish proverb to describe the challenges of a business used to say " forty creek, bring water".
Please allow users emancipation in modeling. Especially the T -spline Autodesk, Alias, 3DS, Maya, etc. While there are a lot of software technology in your hand, why the Autodesk Inventor users all surface modeling can be linked not be found in -house development.
Thank you.
Best Regards.

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