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JDMather
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Why isn't there a real Autodesk University?

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01-22-2014 09:42 AM

I have attended (and presented) at several AU conferences in Las Vegas, and every time I attend I am left wondering, "Why isn't there a real Autodesk University?"

 

I often wonder if anyone at Autodesk even understands what they have in Autodesk Inventor (and related products).

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There is a full mechanical engineering (or even physics) curriculum buried in the software.  Who knows how to use this information?  Where is the print or digital documentation (real documentation, not the limited garbage in the wikihelp).  Where is the coursework, the case studies....?  (I think I have identified most that exists, not much).

 

And where is the faculty that knows how to use modern, interesting, engaging digital tools to teach Digital Prototyping?

Anybody who thinks "School" is going to do this on their own should read

The Children's Machine: Rethinking School in the Age of the Computer

 By Seymour Papert

("Educators with vested interest in the status quo will hate this book.  It is about their demise.")

We need a new paradigm, forget the chalk and talk of classical engineering instruction, make the forumulas come alive in the digital world of the 21st century.  Everybody wants to hold onto the classical techniques as sacred, techniques that have no technological defense, only a historical one.

 

We are looking for a new faculty person ( http://jobs.pct.edu  - Engineering Design Technology).

http://www.pct.edu/catalog/majors/BEN.shtml

 

I doubt there is a single person in the entire world who (really) knows how to use Inventor for teaching digital prototyping.

 

I wonder how much interest there would be in Autodesk sponsored  MS/PHD level School of Digital Prototyping at some university? 

 

In my opinion, whoever recognizes this first will go down in history as spearheading the next industrial revolution of the 21st century.

 

JD Mather

 

 

 

 

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Re: Why isn't there a real Autodesk University?

01-22-2014 10:23 AM in reply to: JDMather
I feel part of the problem is with all the aspects of Inventor. We use a certain aspect of Inventor and never get into the surfaces aspect of it as someone that designs a lot of plastic parts for the consumer market. I doubt that they would use the Sheet-Metal or Welding environment. In the DA, I will use the Spring section and then still verify the results I get with the spring manufacture that we use. For someone that does a lot of power-train, they would be quite familiar with the Gear/Sprocket section. Since I published my flexible Hose library, I haven't had the need to publish another library. It would take be a bit of reading to publish another library. Unless someone had a job that either encompassed all aspect of Inventor, or had the ability to use a specific branch of Inventor for 6-12 month to become extremely proficient in that aspect and then move on to another branch of Inventor to master it. I would take my hat off and would love to spend some time with that individual, I'm sure they could have a great deal to contribute.
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Re: Why isn't there a real Autodesk University?

01-22-2014 11:58 AM in reply to: blair

That's why there are so many of us "Expert" Elites.  We all know a little bit, about a little bit of the software.  JD, as a teacher, you're the only one who gets to know a lot about all of it.  :smileywink::smileyvery-happy:

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01-22-2014 01:22 PM in reply to: cbenner
That's the definition of an Expert: one who knows a lot about very little.
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Re: Why isn't there a real Autodesk University?

01-24-2014 10:05 AM in reply to: blair

The silence here (of the edu community) is defening.

 

What got us to this dance? (standard of living of the industrialized world)?

 

Where is the Elon Musk, Burt Rutan, Richard Branson, Jeff Bezos or Steve Jobs of Autodesk?

Ironic that much of the innovation those people are (or were in the case of Jobs) involved in revolves around modern design technology (Autodesk or other) yet how celebrated or even recognized is the design technology.  How many could even name the CEOs of the leading companies?  What are their visions of the 21st century?

 

This week John Ratzenberger, host of Made in America tv show is speaking to our students this week.  "If you want to be truly famous, invent something that furthers mankind. Wake up each morning and put your hand to something useful.”... ...“I wanted to be with my heroes,” he told students. “People who actually know how to make things. The only thing that makes the country strong is manufacturing; it’s what brought us to the dance.”

 

 

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Re: Why isn't there a real Autodesk University?

01-24-2014 10:46 AM in reply to: JDMather

Of course that should have been -

The silence here (of the edu community) is deafening.

 

Short-handed here - too much work on my plate.

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Re: Why isn't there a real Autodesk University?

01-24-2014 10:55 AM in reply to: JDMather
The complexity of our world and components in it have in a sense "done it to ourselves". The complexity of items around us now require specialists in each small area and aspect of design and manufacturing. The same can be said of Inventor. We have a IT department that looks after the computers and network. You may have a Vault specialist, someone that excels in Tube & Pipe, someone in Surfaces, another in CC and publishing of custom CC libraries. Others with Mold and engineers with FEA and Dynamic Simulation. I'm sure if you haven't taught a "Mold" class or "Dynamic Sim" class since last year, you have to do a quick brush-up on it before you teach the class. I guess the "Jack of all Trades, Master of None" fits Inventor as well.
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Re: Why isn't there a real Autodesk University?

01-24-2014 11:50 AM in reply to: blair

Blair:

 

Sounds a LOT like the practice of Engineering, does it not?  Show me an electrical engineer who can correctly specify a grade of steel for a pipeline, please.  The same goes for graphical software.  Ever read the credits for a Pixar movie?  (... and you though CAD had narrow specializations!)

 

JD:

 

I think this is an idea whose time has come.  I don't think it needs to be software-specific, but it couldn't hurt to at least start there.  Apple generated a lot of sales by building a user base in the schools.  When the decision came to buy a home computer, an Apple was what most students had learned on.  One wonders what a cost/benefit analysis of that decision would look like now.

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Re: Why isn't there a real Autodesk University?

01-24-2014 12:07 PM in reply to: graemev
Yes, I remember watching all the credits for the movie "Avatar" as a cousin was on the list. The list of credits was a short-run film on it's own.
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Re: Why isn't there a real Autodesk University?

01-24-2014 12:09 PM in reply to: JDMather

Wish I could give this post more than 1 Kudos point.  It articulates what I've thought for years but never had the words to describe.

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