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Weld Error

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Anonymous
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Weld Error

See CF (the old one not the new one) same topic...

This is the case in both 6 & 7. Why won't it allow a cosmetic or real weld
here? Seem like this situations fits within the current weld limitations.
Because of the holes in the corners?

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Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
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Message 2 of 9
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Not an answer but an observation:
The solid piece of metal with the three (visible) tapped holes in it looks
like an optical illusion. It looks like there's a few fillets in it (near
the top right hole), but the part you're welding to has a rectangular shaped
cut-out area (with circular reliefs). I'm just not sure what's going on
there... but it may be because I can only see a portion of the parts.
Tim W.

"Sean Dotson" wrote in message
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> See CF (the old one not the new one) same topic...
>
> This is the case in both 6 & 7. Why won't it allow a cosmetic or real
weld
> here? Seem like this situations fits within the current weld limitations.
> Because of the holes in the corners?
>
> --
> Sean Dotson, PE
> http://www.sdotson.com
> Check the Inventor FAQ for most common questions
> www.sdotson.com/faq.html
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
Message 3 of 9
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Imagine a channel (the part with the tapped holes) which does indeed have
fillets on it's tips, is going to be inserted through a large rectangular
tube. I basically want to make a rectangular cut in the side of the tube
the same dimensions as the channel. Since you can't get sharp corners with
an end mill I put in the relief holes in the corners.

However three of the sides of the channel are touching the sides of the cut
out in the tube. This should allow for a fillet weld.

Now that I think of it I wonder if this is related to my "weird view"
problem (above). It's the same "spine" part...hmmmm

Thanks Tim...

--
Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
Check the Inventor FAQ for most common questions
www.sdotson.com/faq.html
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"Tim W" wrote in message
news:8B429922FD55865DE7C11569ED8859DE@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Not an answer but an observation:
> The solid piece of metal with the three (visible) tapped holes in it looks
> like an optical illusion. It looks like there's a few fillets in it (near
> the top right hole), but the part you're welding to has a rectangular
shaped
> cut-out area (with circular reliefs). I'm just not sure what's going on
> there... but it may be because I can only see a portion of the parts.
> Tim W.
>
> "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
> news:C2FAFE291272845671457DA0A7DD3835@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > See CF (the old one not the new one) same topic...
> >
> > This is the case in both 6 & 7. Why won't it allow a cosmetic or real
> weld
> > here? Seem like this situations fits within the current weld
limitations.
> > Because of the holes in the corners?
> >
> > --
> > Sean Dotson, PE
> > http://www.sdotson.com
> > Check the Inventor FAQ for most common questions
> > www.sdotson.com/faq.html
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
>
>
Message 4 of 9
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Sean - do you have ANY interference along the edge shown in blue?
Message 5 of 9
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Hmm ... I deleted the old NG soon as I subscribed to the new one.
~Larry

"Sean Dotson" wrote in message
news:6DA68CE5FDE86EF910D0C78233190D60@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Imagine a channel (the part with the tapped holes) which does indeed have
> fillets on it's tips, is going to be inserted through a large rectangular
> tube. I basically want to make a rectangular cut in the side of the tube
> the same dimensions as the channel. Since you can't get sharp corners
with
> an end mill I put in the relief holes in the corners.
>
> However three of the sides of the channel are touching the sides of the
cut
> out in the tube. This should allow for a fillet weld.
>
> Now that I think of it I wonder if this is related to my "weird view"
> problem (above). It's the same "spine" part...hmmmm
>
> Thanks Tim...
>
> --
> Sean Dotson, PE
> http://www.sdotson.com
> Check the Inventor FAQ for most common questions
> www.sdotson.com/faq.html
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> "Tim W" wrote in message
> news:8B429922FD55865DE7C11569ED8859DE@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Not an answer but an observation:
> > The solid piece of metal with the three (visible) tapped holes in it
looks
> > like an optical illusion. It looks like there's a few fillets in it
(near
> > the top right hole), but the part you're welding to has a rectangular
> shaped
> > cut-out area (with circular reliefs). I'm just not sure what's going on
> > there... but it may be because I can only see a portion of the parts.
> > Tim W.
> >
> > "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
> > news:C2FAFE291272845671457DA0A7DD3835@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > See CF (the old one not the new one) same topic...
> > >
> > > This is the case in both 6 & 7. Why won't it allow a cosmetic or real
> > weld
> > > here? Seem like this situations fits within the current weld
> limitations.
> > > Because of the holes in the corners?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sean Dotson, PE
> > > http://www.sdotson.com
> > > Check the Inventor FAQ for most common questions
> > > www.sdotson.com/faq.html
> >
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 6 of 9
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Hey Gary. No there should not have been. I will check tomorrow but I have a
sneaking suspicion it had to do with the problem I was having in the "Weird
View Problem" thread above. I couldn't constrain *anything* to the spine
(one of the parts shown here) so maybe that was part of the problem. I'll
check it out tomorrow and let you know...

Any problem with adaptivity and weldments you know of? Maybe having an
adaptive part (holes/cuts in the part are adaptive) grounded?

--
Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
Check the Inventor FAQ for most common questions
www.sdotson.com/faq.html
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"Gary R Smith (Autodesk)" wrote in message
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> Sean - do you have ANY interference along the edge shown in blue?
>
>
Message 7 of 9
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

You aren't going to keep track of all the AutoCAD files with Quinn?


--
Cory McConnell
Message 8 of 9
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

You say there are three sides of the channel touching the tube. It sounds like at the time Inventor tries to apply the welds it doesn't regard the sides as touching.Any chance there is some sort of round off error? Maybe the weld is being applied before some calculation that would make the sides touch.
Message 9 of 9
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Well it must have been the problem with the one part as today (after
recreating the spine part) it works with no issues. So rather than a simple
weld problem it's a much more complicated shapemanager problem.

--
Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
Check the Inventor FAQ for most common questions
www.sdotson.com/faq.html
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"Gary R Smith (Autodesk)" wrote in message
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> Sean - do you have ANY interference along the edge shown in blue?
>
>

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