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dpiengineering
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Upgrades / Release Procedure

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11-08-2002 04:02 AM
I am a former/current SW user. I think Autodesk and its client base should look at what their major competitor is doing. SW issues what they call a "pre-release". Users may download the pre-release as well as all new releases and service packs from their web site (if they have subscription service). Maybe autodesk should do something similar to this. SW implemented this procedure in response to releasing SW2001 which was full of bugs; similar to IV6. Also, they post what bugs they have fixed in the service packs so users dowload and install only the service packs they may need if they are having problems with the software. If you're not having problems you don't install the service packs unless they come with some new features.

Another comment is, that after the release of SW 2001, all the other releases afterwards have been relatively bug-free. I would suspect that SP1 for IV6 is going to be similar to SP1 for SW2001 or at least I would hope.
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MechMan_
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Message 2 of 20 (98 Views)

Re: Upgrades / Release Procedure

11-08-2002 04:12 AM in reply to: dpiengineering
Searching through a library of SP's to pick out only the ones you want? Sounds time consuming. No thanks. I'd rather get one big SP that fixes everything there is to be fixed.

My $.02.

MechMan
*McConnell, Cory
Message 3 of 20 (98 Views)

Re: Upgrades / Release Procedure

11-08-2002 04:19 AM in reply to: dpiengineering
Sounds like SWX 2003 has bugs as well, prerelease or not.

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"dpiengineering" wrote in message
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> I am a former/current SW user. I think Autodesk and its client base should
look at what their major competitor is doing. SW issues what they call a
"pre-release". Users may download the pre-release as well as all new
releases and service packs from their web site (if they have subscription
service). Maybe autodesk should do something similar to this. SW implemented
this procedure in response to releasing SW2001 which was full of bugs;
similar to IV6. Also, they post what bugs they have fixed in the service
packs so users dowload and install only the service packs they may need if
they are having problems with the software. If you're not having problems
you don't install the service packs unless they come with some new features.
> Another comment is, that after the release of SW 2001, all the other
releases afterwards have been relatively bug-free. I would suspect that SP1
for IV6 is going to be similar to SP1 for SW2001 or at least I would hope.
>
>
*DJSpaceMouse
Message 4 of 20 (98 Views)

Re: Upgrades / Release Procedure

11-08-2002 04:23 AM in reply to: dpiengineering
I think you can do this if you register as a
beta-tester.


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I
am a former/current SW user. I think Autodesk and its client base should look
at what their major competitor is doing. SW issues what they call a
"pre-release". Users may download the pre-release as well as all new releases
and service packs from their web site (if they have subscription service).
Maybe autodesk should do something similar to this. SW implemented this
procedure in response to releasing SW2001 which was full of bugs; similar to
IV6. Also, they post what bugs they have fixed in the service packs so users
dowload and install only the service packs they may need if they are having
problems with the software. If you're not having problems you don't install
the service packs unless they come with some new features.

Another comment is, that after the release of SW 2001, all the other
releases afterwards have been relatively bug-free. I would suspect that SP1
for IV6 is going to be similar to SP1 for SW2001 or at least I would
hope.

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guzie
Posts: 16
Registered: ‎09-03-2003
Message 5 of 20 (98 Views)

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11-08-2002 08:22 AM in reply to: dpiengineering
Nope. Beta testers don't get that.
*Caldwell, Larry
Message 6 of 20 (98 Views)

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11-08-2002 10:33 AM in reply to: dpiengineering
The only thing beta testers get is all the
bugs they can eat. <G>

~Larry


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I think you can do this if you register as a
beta-tester.


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I
am a former/current SW user. I think Autodesk and its client base should
look at what their major competitor is doing. SW issues what they call a
"pre-release". Users may download the pre-release as well as all new
releases and service packs from their web site (if they have subscription
service). Maybe autodesk should do something similar to this. SW implemented
this procedure in response to releasing SW2001 which was full of bugs;
similar to IV6. Also, they post what bugs they have fixed in the service
packs so users dowload and install only the service packs they may need if
they are having problems with the software. If you're not having problems
you don't install the service packs unless they come with some new features.

Another comment is, that after the release of SW 2001, all the other
releases afterwards have been relatively bug-free. I would suspect that SP1
for IV6 is going to be similar to SP1 for SW2001 or at least I would
hope.

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flash
Posts: 45
Registered: ‎09-11-2003
Message 7 of 20 (98 Views)

Re: Upgrades / Release Procedure

11-08-2002 11:07 AM in reply to: dpiengineering
dp,

Since this may be your first foray into the Adesk NG world you may be surprised that there was 2 months of beta testing (some companies were alpha sites prior to beta :smileywink:) before the product was released to manufacturing (RTM). Beta testers are registered with Adesk (anyone can register witha valid email address) and agree to test the products, all products, in order to try to identify all "unknown issues" as they are uncovered. SW invites some subscription users to test their "Pre-Release", aka beta, to identify "unknown issues". The testing programs are the same, just different names (Beta/Pre-Release). BTW, as a former SW user, you pretty much have to use all the sp's in order for SW to remain stable. Besides, if you pass on SW sp's 1-3 because the fixes don't pertain to you and you install sp4, you automatically get 1-3 because they are, hold your breath dp, historical. Flash!
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dpiengineering
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Message 8 of 20 (98 Views)

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11-08-2002 12:16 PM in reply to: dpiengineering
All SW subscription users have access to the pre-releases. In essence it is an excuse for SW in case there are bugs with the programs. They don't send out the final released CD's until the "pre-release has been out for a couple of months. They have beta testing as well prior to releasing the "pre-release".
Also, the service packs from SW have had bugs in them and have sometimes actually created problems that didn't exist without the service packs. Don't know if this has been an issue for IV6. But, yes they are historical so you do get all the service packs when you install the latest one. Does Inventor post what bugs have been fixed in their service packs?
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flash
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Registered: ‎09-11-2003
Message 9 of 20 (98 Views)

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11-08-2002 03:22 PM in reply to: dpiengineering
Yes! Bug fixes are listed in the text file that is downloadable with the sp. Are you a brand new user of Inventor or just fishing? Because if you were familiar with Adesk sp downloads you would already know this........Flash
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tbryant
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Registered: ‎10-22-2003
Message 10 of 20 (98 Views)

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11-08-2002 09:51 PM in reply to: dpiengineering
SolidWorks has both a beta program that is similar to AutoDesks and a PreRelease in which all subscrption customers can download the software and report bugs. Another thing that SolidWorks does that Autodesk may or may not do, is that they wille continue to put out service packs for SW 2001 plus after th release of 2003, for any customers who decide to wait before upgrading.

Todd
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