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"dpiengineering" <I
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am a former/current SW user. I think Autodesk and its client base should look
at what their major competitor is doing. SW issues what they call a
"pre-release". Users may download the pre-release as well as all new releases
and service packs from their web site (if they have subscription service).
Maybe autodesk should do something similar to this. SW implemented this
procedure in response to releasing SW2001 which was full of bugs; similar to
IV6. Also, they post what bugs they have fixed in the service packs so users
dowload and install only the service packs they may need if they are having
problems with the software. If you're not having problems you don't install
the service packs unless they come with some new features.
Another comment is, that after the release of SW 2001, all the other
releases afterwards have been relatively bug-free. I would suspect that SP1
for IV6 is going to be similar to SP1 for SW2001 or at least I would
hope.
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I think you can do this if you register as a
beta-tester.
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"dpiengineering" <I
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am a former/current SW user. I think Autodesk and its client base should
look at what their major competitor is doing. SW issues what they call a
"pre-release". Users may download the pre-release as well as all new
releases and service packs from their web site (if they have subscription
service). Maybe autodesk should do something similar to this. SW implemented
this procedure in response to releasing SW2001 which was full of bugs;
similar to IV6. Also, they post what bugs they have fixed in the service
packs so users dowload and install only the service packs they may need if
they are having problems with the software. If you're not having problems
you don't install the service packs unless they come with some new features.
Another comment is, that after the release of SW 2001, all the other
releases afterwards have been relatively bug-free. I would suspect that SP1
for IV6 is going to be similar to SP1 for SW2001 or at least I would
hope.
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am a former/current SW user. I think Autodesk and its client base should look
at what their major competitor is doing. SW issues what they call a
"pre-release". Users may download the pre-release as well as all new releases
and service packs from their web site (if they have subscription service).
Maybe autodesk should do something similar to this. SW implemented this
procedure in response to releasing SW2001 which was full of bugs; similar to
IV6. Also, they post what bugs they have fixed in the service packs so users
dowload and install only the service packs they may need if they are having
problems with the software. If you're not having problems you don't install
the service packs unless they come with some new features.
Another comment is, that after the release of SW 2001, all the other
releases afterwards have been relatively bug-free. I would suspect that SP1
for IV6 is going to be similar to SP1 for SW2001 or at least I would
hope.
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"dpiengineering" <All
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SW subscription users have access to the pre-releases. In essence it is an
excuse for SW in case there are bugs with the programs. They don't send out
the final released CD's until the "pre-release has been out for a couple of
months. They have beta testing as well prior to releasing the "pre-release".
Also, the service packs from SW have had
bugs in them and have sometimes actually created problems that didn't exist
without the service packs. Don't know if this has been an issue for IV6. But,
yes they are historical so you do get all the service packs when you install
the latest one. Does Inventor post what bugs have been fixed in their service
packs?
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"Russ Walker" <
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Autodesk needs to differentiate between an SP1
level (ready for everybody, shipped CD) and an SP0 level (ready for the
adventurers, download). Delaying the product by more betas or gammas or
whatever will never catch all the bugs and will only frustrate those willing
to put up with rough edges.
If everyone knows the refinement level going in,
fewer customers would be unhappy.
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I think most people would agree that the SP0
release hacks a lot of customers off. Further, history has shown that
SP0's of major releases will have bugs. So why not shed the "SW / not
invented here" paranoia and make a change to the test / release
/ patch cycle?
Russ Walker
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am a former/current SW user. I think Autodesk and its client base should
look at what their major competitor is doing. SW issues what they call a
"pre-release". Users may download the pre-release as well as all new
releases and service packs from their web site (if they have subscription
service). Maybe autodesk should do something similar to this. SW implemented
this procedure in response to releasing SW2001 which was full of bugs;
similar to IV6. Also, they post what bugs they have fixed in the service
packs so users dowload and install only the service packs they may need if
they are having problems with the software. If you're not having problems
you don't install the service packs unless they come with some new features.
Another comment is, that after the release of SW 2001, all the other
releases afterwards have been relatively bug-free. I would suspect that SP1
for IV6 is going to be similar to SP1 for SW2001 or at least I would
hope.
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"Rob Rodriguez" <
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I would also like to add something about the
number 0f SolidWorks service packs. Not all service packs deal with
fixing bugs. Some service packs are to add new features or
functionality. Maybe something was being worked on but wasn't completed
in time for the release. Rather than wait until the next release
SolidWorks will often offer it earlier as a service pack.
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Autodesk needs to differentiate between an SP1
level (ready for everybody, shipped CD) and an SP0 level (ready for the
adventurers, download). Delaying the product by more betas or gammas
or whatever will never catch all the bugs and will only frustrate those
willing to put up with rough edges.
If everyone knows the refinement level going
in, fewer customers would be unhappy.
size=2>
I think most people would agree that the SP0
release hacks a lot of customers off. Further, history has shown that
SP0's of major releases will have bugs. So why not shed the "SW / not
invented here" paranoia and make a change to the test / release
/ patch cycle?
Russ Walker
"dpiengineering" <
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am a former/current SW user. I think Autodesk and its client base should
look at what their major competitor is doing. SW issues what they call a
"pre-release". Users may download the pre-release as well as all new
releases and service packs from their web site (if they have subscription
service). Maybe autodesk should do something similar to this. SW
implemented this procedure in response to releasing SW2001 which was full
of bugs; similar to IV6. Also, they post what bugs they have fixed in the
service packs so users dowload and install only the service packs they may
need if they are having problems with the software. If you're not having
problems you don't install the service packs unless they come with some
new features.
Another comment is, that after the release of SW 2001, all the other
releases afterwards have been relatively bug-free. I would suspect that
SP1 for IV6 is going to be similar to SP1 for SW2001 or at least I would
hope.
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"Leo Laimer" <
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I believe this topic is what we call a quarrel
around the emperor's beard.
It doesn't matter wheter we get a few or many
SP's, as long as the issues get solved as soon as possible. I know the update
and SP practise of both companies and would not put one over the
other.
Regards,
--
Leo
Laimer
Maschinen- und Fertigungstechnik
A-4820 Bad Ischl - Austria
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"Rob Rodriguez" <
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I would also like to add something about the
number 0f SolidWorks service packs. Not all service packs deal with
fixing bugs. Some service packs are to add new features or
functionality. Maybe something was being worked on but wasn't
completed in time for the release. Rather than wait until the next
release SolidWorks will often offer it earlier as a service
pack.
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"Russ Walker" <
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Autodesk needs to differentiate between an
SP1 level (ready for everybody, shipped CD) and an SP0 level (ready for
the adventurers, download). Delaying the product by more betas or
gammas or whatever will never catch all the bugs and will only frustrate
those willing to put up with rough edges.
If everyone knows the refinement level going
in, fewer customers would be unhappy.
size=2>
I think most people would agree that the SP0
release hacks a lot of customers off. Further, history has shown
that SP0's of major releases will have bugs. So why not shed the "SW
/ not invented here" paranoia and make a change to the test /
release / patch cycle?
Russ Walker
"dpiengineering" <
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style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">I
am a former/current SW user. I think Autodesk and its client base should
look at what their major competitor is doing. SW issues what they call a
"pre-release". Users may download the pre-release as well as all new
releases and service packs from their web site (if they have
subscription service). Maybe autodesk should do something similar to
this. SW implemented this procedure in response to releasing SW2001
which was full of bugs; similar to IV6. Also, they post what bugs they
have fixed in the service packs so users dowload and install only the
service packs they may need if they are having problems with the
software. If you're not having problems you don't install the service
packs unless they come with some new features.
Another comment is, that after the release of SW 2001, all the other
releases afterwards have been relatively bug-free. I would suspect that
SP1 for IV6 is going to be similar to SP1 for SW2001 or at least I would
hope.
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