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UNABLE TO FIND UNKNOWN TORQUE - please help

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DaveDavidson1
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UNABLE TO FIND UNKNOWN TORQUE - please help

Hi All 🙂
I started to learn Inventor a while ago and for the past few weeks I am really struggling with my assembly. (see pic and attachment)
The idea is tu turn the screw to move the torch arm up and down roughly 3 degrees each way.
I can get the lead screw to turn and move the assembly but so far have failed miserably to find the required torque to turn the screw. I tried with both Output grapher (values returned unusually high) and unknown force feature (couldnt get this to work at all 😞 )
The end of assembly weighs 3Kg which I referenced as the external force.

The unknown force keeps telling me to lock the DoF's but when I do the assembly wont move 😕

Could someone pont me in the right direction pretty please Smiley EmbarassedCapture.JPG

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JDMather
in reply to: DaveDavidson1

Before moving on to an advanced topic like DS, I would want to master the modeling environment.

I opened one of your part files and found that Sketch1 was not costrained and did not have any dimensions?

There were also several errors indicated in the feature tree?

 

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Message 3 of 10

try this web site for torque http://www.engineersedge.com/calculators/torque_calc.htm

T=c * D * F

With the pivot point so close to the actuator the force will be a lot higher than the 3kg load on the end.

You could put your actual values in the calculator and see if it looks reasonable.

 

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JDMather
in reply to: JDMather

What is the purpose of the 3 Move Face features at the end of this feature tree?  (Why 3?)

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Message 5 of 10
DaveDavidson1
in reply to: JDMather

The design had to be changed several times, guess I should have just changed the first "extend face" - Mea culpa for messy assembly, is this the reason why I am unable to find the torque? I started to use Inventor just over 2 months ago and I am learning on my own.
I can use the formula but the idea is to learn how to use the Inventor to do it.
Could you please advice on a way forward and what needs to be fixed apart from the errors visible in assembly tree, in order to solve for torque?


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JDMather
in reply to: DaveDavidson1

Are you aware that you can right click on a feature and select Edit Feature and change the distance?

 

 

Have you installed Service Packs 1 & 2 for 2014?


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JDMather
in reply to: DaveDavidson1

What process will you use to get this threaded rod into the threaded hole?

 

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mcgyvr
in reply to: JDMather


@Anonymous wrote:

What process will you use to get this threaded rod into the threaded hole?

 

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BFH (Big F'in Hammer) process 🙂



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Message 9 of 10

Thank you, already done the calc on paper but I need to  learn how to do it in Inventor.

Message 10 of 10
DaveDavidson1
in reply to: mcgyvr

Right, Fixed the errors and made the thread full length but tbh thats not why I coulnt solve the thread torque problem. To get the thread in I would either constrain the axis or use cylindrical joint to provide for thread joint in DS, but I get the jist guys and thanks for all your kind and helpfull comments.
Apologies if the question was not expert enough for you.

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