Translating MDT parts into IV 11, then ridding the part of User Parameters

[Anonymous]

Hi,

Calling all translation experts. I've got a number of MDT part to translate
into IV 11. There is not problem with the translation using the vanilla MDT
translator interface provided. However, I need to get rid of all the
references to MDT in the translated file that appears in the Parameter Table
of IV as User Parameters. The problem with this is that, if the part is
somewhat complicated, getting rid of those references in the Paramater table
by deletion takes a LOT of time. I've noticed that, as more of the MDT
references are removed, the faster the deletion process goes. But I'm still
looking at hours to cull out all of this unnecessary overhead. Is there a
way to do a global purge of this, and just let it "cook" overnight to be
done the next day? I've tried creating an Iges file from the MDT part and
then opening it in IV. I'm able to use the Construction geometry, but am
unable to extrude the part, since it wants to make a Cut instead of a Solid,
which creates an error anyway. The extrude interface Solid button is grayed
out.

Does anybody have a better way of ridding part files of MDT User Parameters?

[Anonymous]

Before Matt's solution can work, you have to reset all the parameters to the
Inventor parameters first, then the others are classed as unused. There is
still a manual process involved.

--
Dennis Jeffrey, Autodesk Inventor Certified Expert
Autodesk Manufacturing Implementation Certified Expert.
260-399-6615
Instructor/Author/Sr. App Engr.
AIP 11SP3, AIP 2008 SP1, PcCillin AV
HP zv5000 AMD64 ( modified)
Geforce Go 440, Driver: .8185, 2GB RAM
XP Pro SP2, Windows Classic Theme

"Wally" wrote in message
news:5693838@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi Dennis,

Per your statement: "On revisiting your issue, you will see that all of the
parameters
that are listed in the translated IPT file are tied to the original
mechanical desktop parameters. "

The MDT variables (parameters) that appear in the IV parameter table, as
User parameters CAN BE DELETED. In order to delete them, the references in
the Equation column to MDT varialble need to be changed to what is in the
Value column. Once this is done the User variables can be deleted, since
they are no longer linked to the IV parameters.

This is my point. This is unnecessary overhead. In an assembly with many
parts and sub-assemblies this can become an unnecessary drag on performance.
Please take a look again at the JPG files in the ZIP file I provided.
You'll see there the process I went through to get rid of the User
parameters. The resulting file is problem free, and much leaner. That is
the purpose of ridding the file of code that can only be classified as
"garbage", if it has no useful purpose.

The purpose of my post was to find software that can do the deletions
automatically. I'll have to take a look again at what Matt provided. Since
I didn't see anything the first time I looked in the interface of his
program that specifically dealt with these types of deletions I had to
assume the functionality wasn't there.

Thanks for taking the time to look into this.

Wally

[Anonymous]

Hi Dennis,

I see from your post that you are running AIP 11 SP3. Are you also able to
use Matt's program with ...11 without any problems? The software
requirements state that it was developed to run with ...10.

Wally

"Dennis Jeffrey" wrote in message
news:5694015@discussion.autodesk.com...
Before Matt's solution can work, you have to reset all the parameters to the
Inventor parameters first, then the others are classed as unused. There is
still a manual process involved.

--
Dennis Jeffrey, Autodesk Inventor Certified Expert
Autodesk Manufacturing Implementation Certified Expert.
260-399-6615
Instructor/Author/Sr. App Engr.
AIP 11SP3, AIP 2008 SP1, PcCillin AV
HP zv5000 AMD64 ( modified)
Geforce Go 440, Driver: .8185, 2GB RAM
XP Pro SP2, Windows Classic Theme

"Wally" wrote in message
news:5693838@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi Dennis,

Per your statement: "On revisiting your issue, you will see that all of the
parameters
that are listed in the translated IPT file are tied to the original
mechanical desktop parameters. "

The MDT variables (parameters) that appear in the IV parameter table, as
User parameters CAN BE DELETED. In order to delete them, the references in
the Equation column to MDT varialble need to be changed to what is in the
Value column. Once this is done the User variables can be deleted, since
they are no longer linked to the IV parameters.

This is my point. This is unnecessary overhead. In an assembly with many
parts and sub-assemblies this can become an unnecessary drag on performance.
Please take a look again at the JPG files in the ZIP file I provided.
You'll see there the process I went through to get rid of the User
parameters. The resulting file is problem free, and much leaner. That is
the purpose of ridding the file of code that can only be classified as
"garbage", if it has no useful purpose.

The purpose of my post was to find software that can do the deletions
automatically. I'll have to take a look again at what Matt provided. Since
I didn't see anything the first time I looked in the interface of his
program that specifically dealt with these types of deletions I had to
assume the functionality wasn't there.

Thanks for taking the time to look into this.

Wally

[Anonymous]

I have not tried Matts program. I'll give it a try tomorrow on both

--
Dennis Jeffrey, Autodesk Inventor Certified Expert
Autodesk Manufacturing Implementation Certified Expert.
260-399-6615
Instructor/Author/Sr. App Engr.
AIP 11SP3, AIP 2008 SP1, PcCillin AV
HP zv5000 AMD64 ( modified)
Geforce Go 440, Driver: .8185, 2GB RAM
XP Pro SP2, Windows Classic Theme

"Wally" wrote in message
news:5694106@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi Dennis,

I see from your post that you are running AIP 11 SP3. Are you also able to
use Matt's program with ...11 without any problems? The software
requirements state that it was developed to run with ...10.

Wally

"Dennis Jeffrey" wrote in message
news:5694015@discussion.autodesk.com...
Before Matt's solution can work, you have to reset all the parameters to the
Inventor parameters first, then the others are classed as unused. There is
still a manual process involved.

--
Dennis Jeffrey, Autodesk Inventor Certified Expert
Autodesk Manufacturing Implementation Certified Expert.
260-399-6615
Instructor/Author/Sr. App Engr.
AIP 11SP3, AIP 2008 SP1, PcCillin AV
HP zv5000 AMD64 ( modified)
Geforce Go 440, Driver: .8185, 2GB RAM
XP Pro SP2, Windows Classic Theme

"Wally" wrote in message
news:5693838@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi Dennis,

Per your statement: "On revisiting your issue, you will see that all of the
parameters
that are listed in the translated IPT file are tied to the original
mechanical desktop parameters. "

The MDT variables (parameters) that appear in the IV parameter table, as
User parameters CAN BE DELETED. In order to delete them, the references in
the Equation column to MDT varialble need to be changed to what is in the
Value column. Once this is done the User variables can be deleted, since
they are no longer linked to the IV parameters.

This is my point. This is unnecessary overhead. In an assembly with many
parts and sub-assemblies this can become an unnecessary drag on performance.
Please take a look again at the JPG files in the ZIP file I provided.
You'll see there the process I went through to get rid of the User
parameters. The resulting file is problem free, and much leaner. That is
the purpose of ridding the file of code that can only be classified as
"garbage", if it has no useful purpose.

The purpose of my post was to find software that can do the deletions
automatically. I'll have to take a look again at what Matt provided. Since
I didn't see anything the first time I looked in the interface of his
program that specifically dealt with these types of deletions I had to
assume the functionality wasn't there.

Thanks for taking the time to look into this.

Wally

[Anonymous]

I have tested version 2.31 in both R11 SP3 and R2008 SP1, the iDrive works
(deletes) on the Dim3.dwg imports AFTER the Inventor parameters are edited.

--
Dennis Jeffrey, Autodesk Inventor Certified Expert
Autodesk Manufacturing Implementation Certified Expert.
260-399-6615
Instructor/Author/Sr. App Engr.
AIP 11SP3, AIP 2008 SP1, PcCillin AV
HP zv5000 AMD64 ( modified)
Geforce Go 440, Driver: .8185, 2GB RAM
XP Pro SP2, Windows Classic Theme

"Dennis Jeffrey" wrote in message
news:5694138@discussion.autodesk.com...
I have not tried Matts program. I'll give it a try tomorrow on both

--
Dennis Jeffrey, Autodesk Inventor Certified Expert
Autodesk Manufacturing Implementation Certified Expert.
260-399-6615
Instructor/Author/Sr. App Engr.
AIP 11SP3, AIP 2008 SP1, PcCillin AV
HP zv5000 AMD64 ( modified)
Geforce Go 440, Driver: .8185, 2GB RAM
XP Pro SP2, Windows Classic Theme

"Wally" wrote in message
news:5694106@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi Dennis,

I see from your post that you are running AIP 11 SP3. Are you also able to
use Matt's program with ...11 without any problems? The software
requirements state that it was developed to run with ...10.

Wally

"Dennis Jeffrey" wrote in message
news:5694015@discussion.autodesk.com...
Before Matt's solution can work, you have to reset all the parameters to the
Inventor parameters first, then the others are classed as unused. There is
still a manual process involved.

--
Dennis Jeffrey, Autodesk Inventor Certified Expert
Autodesk Manufacturing Implementation Certified Expert.
260-399-6615
Instructor/Author/Sr. App Engr.
AIP 11SP3, AIP 2008 SP1, PcCillin AV
HP zv5000 AMD64 ( modified)
Geforce Go 440, Driver: .8185, 2GB RAM
XP Pro SP2, Windows Classic Theme

"Wally" wrote in message
news:5693838@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi Dennis,

Per your statement: "On revisiting your issue, you will see that all of the
parameters
that are listed in the translated IPT file are tied to the original
mechanical desktop parameters. "

The MDT variables (parameters) that appear in the IV parameter table, as
User parameters CAN BE DELETED. In order to delete them, the references in
the Equation column to MDT varialble need to be changed to what is in the
Value column. Once this is done the User variables can be deleted, since
they are no longer linked to the IV parameters.

This is my point. This is unnecessary overhead. In an assembly with many
parts and sub-assemblies this can become an unnecessary drag on performance.
Please take a look again at the JPG files in the ZIP file I provided.
You'll see there the process I went through to get rid of the User
parameters. The resulting file is problem free, and much leaner. That is
the purpose of ridding the file of code that can only be classified as
"garbage", if it has no useful purpose.

The purpose of my post was to find software that can do the deletions
automatically. I'll have to take a look again at what Matt provided. Since
I didn't see anything the first time I looked in the interface of his
program that specifically dealt with these types of deletions I had to
assume the functionality wasn't there.

Thanks for taking the time to look into this.

Wally

[MattH]

Although iDrive was originally developed with IV10, it is fully compatible with IV12 and IV2008
Regards
MattH