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Anonymous
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Split Balloons

I'm not clear after reviewing the help files on how to do edit the entries
if you choose to make a split balloon. I can override the item number at the
top, but cannot seem to find a way to do the same for the bottom. It wants
to display it as QTY. I want to have a sheet number in the bottom half of
the balloon. Help!
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Message 2 of 8
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I tried to add a "user" column, called sheet_num, but can't see how to
assign this to the lower number of the split balloon. It seems indelibly
tied to the QTY column. Doesn't anybody else have any experiences with
this?

"Paul Harvey" wrote in message
news:7BC41FC65809D96D5B526F835684C61F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I'm not clear after reviewing the help files on how to do edit the entries
> if you choose to make a split balloon. I can override the item number at
the
> top, but cannot seem to find a way to do the same for the bottom. It wants
> to display it as QTY. I want to have a sheet number in the bottom half of
> the balloon. Help!
>
>
Message 3 of 8
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Would someone like to confirm this?
I'm beginning to suspect this is a bug. There seems to be no way to control
which columns of the part list that the top and bottom of the balloons
display. But when you go to Edit Balloon in the right click menu, it acts
like it ought to be there. By this time in MDT6 there was a way to perform
this VERY BASIC assembly drawing function.

"Paul Harvey" wrote in message
news:7BC41FC65809D96D5B526F835684C61F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I'm not clear after reviewing the help files on how to do edit the entries
> if you choose to make a split balloon. I can override the item number at
the
> top, but cannot seem to find a way to do the same for the bottom. It wants
> to display it as QTY. I want to have a sheet number in the bottom half of
> the balloon. Help!
>
>
Message 4 of 8
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

There appears to be a definite bug! If you go to Standards, Balloons and
select the third Balloon Type (plain text) a dialogue pops up allowing the
user to select from various multiple fields, including custom properties, to
be used in the balloon. This dialogue never appears when selecting the
second Balloon Type (split circle). Sounds like an SP is required.

-Russ


"Paul Harvey" wrote in message
news:B18793552DB29F0C92E3B761DBE121BE@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Would someone like to confirm this?
> I'm beginning to suspect this is a bug. There seems to be no way to
control
> which columns of the part list that the top and bottom of the balloons
> display. But when you go to Edit Balloon in the right click menu, it acts
> like it ought to be there. By this time in MDT6 there was a way to perform
> this VERY BASIC assembly drawing function.
>
> "Paul Harvey" wrote in message
> news:7BC41FC65809D96D5B526F835684C61F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I'm not clear after reviewing the help files on how to do edit the
entries
> > if you choose to make a split balloon. I can override the item number at
> the
> > top, but cannot seem to find a way to do the same for the bottom. It
wants
> > to display it as QTY. I want to have a sheet number in the bottom half
of
> > the balloon. Help!
> >
> >
>
>
Message 5 of 8
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Indeed Russ I concur. In all my years I have never needed QTY in the bottom
half of a split balloon. We've always shown the detail's sheet number. This
is a must.
I can live with garbled text.
I can live with sprinkled text on printouts.
I can live with hidden lines bleeding through.
I can even live with picking each feature to change the color.
But if I can't change the bottom half of the split balloon to SHT (a custom
property) . . .well er ah . . . I'll wait until a service pack I guess,
won't I? Please Autodesk, let us poor slobs know this is being addressed.
This one's a killer!

"Russ Walker" wrote in message
news:FEB4E63E482ED4C1EFD5B0CAE1881E9F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> There appears to be a definite bug! If you go to Standards, Balloons and
> select the third Balloon Type (plain text) a dialogue pops up allowing the
> user to select from various multiple fields, including custom properties,
to
> be used in the balloon. This dialogue never appears when selecting the
> second Balloon Type (split circle). Sounds like an SP is required.
>
> -Russ
>
>
> "Paul Harvey" wrote in message
> news:B18793552DB29F0C92E3B761DBE121BE@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Would someone like to confirm this?
> > I'm beginning to suspect this is a bug. There seems to be no way to
> control
> > which columns of the part list that the top and bottom of the balloons
> > display. But when you go to Edit Balloon in the right click menu, it
acts
> > like it ought to be there. By this time in MDT6 there was a way to
perform
> > this VERY BASIC assembly drawing function.
> >
> > "Paul Harvey" wrote in message
> > news:7BC41FC65809D96D5B526F835684C61F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > I'm not clear after reviewing the help files on how to do edit the
> entries
> > > if you choose to make a split balloon. I can override the item number
at
> > the
> > > top, but cannot seem to find a way to do the same for the bottom. It
> wants
> > > to display it as QTY. I want to have a sheet number in the bottom half
> of
> > > the balloon. Help!
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 6 of 8
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I've expended a few words on this subject as well but I think I got put on
Ig. I haven't seen an ANSI Standard reference that deals with this, but I've
always used the detail sheet number reference in the bottom of the balloon
to indicate how to find the detail. Alternatively it would be a column in
the parts list. Either way, no straight-forward way to tell the shop where
the detail for a particular part is located far as I know. What'd the old
Indian say they told him: "Endeavor to persevere"
~Larry

"Jack Brentner" wrote in message
news:6B6AECF77B3F72F5BE3AE9FC68D4D509@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Indeed Russ I concur. In all my years I have never needed QTY in the
bottom
> half of a split balloon. We've always shown the detail's sheet number.
This
> is a must.
> I can live with garbled text.
> I can live with sprinkled text on printouts.
> I can live with hidden lines bleeding through.
> I can even live with picking each feature to change the color.
> But if I can't change the bottom half of the split balloon to SHT (a
custom
> property) . . .well er ah . . . I'll wait until a service pack I guess,
> won't I? Please Autodesk, let us poor slobs know this is being addressed.
> This one's a killer!
>
> "Russ Walker" wrote in message
> news:FEB4E63E482ED4C1EFD5B0CAE1881E9F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > There appears to be a definite bug! If you go to Standards, Balloons
and
> > select the third Balloon Type (plain text) a dialogue pops up allowing
the
> > user to select from various multiple fields, including custom
properties,
> to
> > be used in the balloon. This dialogue never appears when selecting the
> > second Balloon Type (split circle). Sounds like an SP is required.
> >
> > -Russ
> >
> >
> > "Paul Harvey" wrote in message
> > news:B18793552DB29F0C92E3B761DBE121BE@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Would someone like to confirm this?
> > > I'm beginning to suspect this is a bug. There seems to be no way to
> > control
> > > which columns of the part list that the top and bottom of the balloons
> > > display. But when you go to Edit Balloon in the right click menu, it
> acts
> > > like it ought to be there. By this time in MDT6 there was a way to
> perform
> > > this VERY BASIC assembly drawing function.
> > >
> > > "Paul Harvey" wrote in message
> > > news:7BC41FC65809D96D5B526F835684C61F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > I'm not clear after reviewing the help files on how to do edit the
> > entries
> > > > if you choose to make a split balloon. I can override the item
number
> at
> > > the
> > > > top, but cannot seem to find a way to do the same for the bottom. It
> > wants
> > > > to display it as QTY. I want to have a sheet number in the bottom
half
> > of
> > > > the balloon. Help!
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 7 of 8
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Thanks for your input, Larry and all.
ANSI Standard reference or no, the split balloon with sheet number
represents a significant number of my clients' requirements. I don't have a
shop guy to tell him to persevere, and I doubt it will fly if I tell this to
my client. The response will be, "Well I don't care what software you use,
and I don't care how you get that sheet number in my split balloon, that's
the way its gonna be or I'll take my business down the road."
Jack and yourself are right to be asking for a solution to this apparent
oversight. I am surprised and disappointed that this even is an issue this
late in the game.

"Larry Caldwell" wrote in message
news:5741BD01B6393769F6A0D8CEF4ECDD53@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I've expended a few words on this subject as well but I think I got put on
> Ig. I haven't seen an ANSI Standard reference that deals with this, but
I've
> always used the detail sheet number reference in the bottom of the balloon
> to indicate how to find the detail. Alternatively it would be a column in
> the parts list. Either way, no straight-forward way to tell the shop where
> the detail for a particular part is located far as I know. What'd the old
> Indian say they told him: "Endeavor to persevere"
> ~Larry
>
> "Jack Brentner" wrote in message
> news:6B6AECF77B3F72F5BE3AE9FC68D4D509@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Indeed Russ I concur. In all my years I have never needed QTY in the
> bottom
> > half of a split balloon. We've always shown the detail's sheet number.
> This
> > is a must.
> > I can live with garbled text.
> > I can live with sprinkled text on printouts.
> > I can live with hidden lines bleeding through.
> > I can even live with picking each feature to change the color.
> > But if I can't change the bottom half of the split balloon to SHT (a
> custom
> > property) . . .well er ah . . . I'll wait until a service pack I guess,
> > won't I? Please Autodesk, let us poor slobs know this is being
addressed.
> > This one's a killer!
> >
> > "Russ Walker" wrote in message
> > news:FEB4E63E482ED4C1EFD5B0CAE1881E9F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > There appears to be a definite bug! If you go to Standards, Balloons
> and
> > > select the third Balloon Type (plain text) a dialogue pops up allowing
> the
> > > user to select from various multiple fields, including custom
> properties,
> > to
> > > be used in the balloon. This dialogue never appears when selecting
the
> > > second Balloon Type (split circle). Sounds like an SP is required.
> > >
> > > -Russ
> > >
> > >
> > > "Paul Harvey" wrote in message
> > > news:B18793552DB29F0C92E3B761DBE121BE@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > Would someone like to confirm this?
> > > > I'm beginning to suspect this is a bug. There seems to be no way to
> > > control
> > > > which columns of the part list that the top and bottom of the
balloons
> > > > display. But when you go to Edit Balloon in the right click menu, it
> > acts
> > > > like it ought to be there. By this time in MDT6 there was a way to
> > perform
> > > > this VERY BASIC assembly drawing function.
> > > >
> > > > "Paul Harvey" wrote in message
> > > > news:7BC41FC65809D96D5B526F835684C61F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > I'm not clear after reviewing the help files on how to do edit the
> > > entries
> > > > > if you choose to make a split balloon. I can override the item
> number
> > at
> > > > the
> > > > > top, but cannot seem to find a way to do the same for the bottom.
It
> > > wants
> > > > > to display it as QTY. I want to have a sheet number in the bottom
> half
> > > of
> > > > > the balloon. Help!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 8 of 8
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Thanks for your input, Larry and all.
ANSI Standard reference or no, the split balloon with sheet number
represents a significant number of my clients' requirements. I don't have a
shop guy to tell him to persevere, and I doubt it will fly if I tell this to
my client. The response will be, "Well I don't care what software you use,
and I don't care how you get that sheet number in my split balloon, that's
the way its gonna be or I'll take my business down the road."
Jack and yourself are right to be asking for a solution to this apparent
oversight. I am surprised and disappointed that this even is an issue this
late in the game.

"Larry Caldwell" wrote in message
news:5741BD01B6393769F6A0D8CEF4ECDD53@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I've expended a few words on this subject as well but I think I got put on
> Ig. I haven't seen an ANSI Standard reference that deals with this, but
I've
> always used the detail sheet number reference in the bottom of the balloon
> to indicate how to find the detail. Alternatively it would be a column in
> the parts list. Either way, no straight-forward way to tell the shop where
> the detail for a particular part is located far as I know. What'd the old
> Indian say they told him: "Endeavor to persevere"
> ~Larry
>
> "Jack Brentner" wrote in message
> news:6B6AECF77B3F72F5BE3AE9FC68D4D509@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Indeed Russ I concur. In all my years I have never needed QTY in the
> bottom
> > half of a split balloon. We've always shown the detail's sheet number.
> This
> > is a must.
> > I can live with garbled text.
> > I can live with sprinkled text on printouts.
> > I can live with hidden lines bleeding through.
> > I can even live with picking each feature to change the color.
> > But if I can't change the bottom half of the split balloon to SHT (a
> custom
> > property) . . .well er ah . . . I'll wait until a service pack I guess,
> > won't I? Please Autodesk, let us poor slobs know this is being
addressed.
> > This one's a killer!
> >
> > "Russ Walker" wrote in message
> > news:FEB4E63E482ED4C1EFD5B0CAE1881E9F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > There appears to be a definite bug! If you go to Standards, Balloons
> and
> > > select the third Balloon Type (plain text) a dialogue pops up allowing
> the
> > > user to select from various multiple fields, including custom
> properties,
> > to
> > > be used in the balloon. This dialogue never appears when selecting
the
> > > second Balloon Type (split circle). Sounds like an SP is required.
> > >
> > > -Russ
> > >
> > >
> > > "Paul Harvey" wrote in message
> > > news:B18793552DB29F0C92E3B761DBE121BE@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > Would someone like to confirm this?
> > > > I'm beginning to suspect this is a bug. There seems to be no way to
> > > control
> > > > which columns of the part list that the top and bottom of the
balloons
> > > > display. But when you go to Edit Balloon in the right click menu, it
> > acts
> > > > like it ought to be there. By this time in MDT6 there was a way to
> > perform
> > > > this VERY BASIC assembly drawing function.
> > > >
> > > > "Paul Harvey" wrote in message
> > > > news:7BC41FC65809D96D5B526F835684C61F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > > > I'm not clear after reviewing the help files on how to do edit the
> > > entries
> > > > > if you choose to make a split balloon. I can override the item
> number
> > at
> > > > the
> > > > > top, but cannot seem to find a way to do the same for the bottom.
It
> > > wants
> > > > > to display it as QTY. I want to have a sheet number in the bottom
> half
> > > of
> > > > > the balloon. Help!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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