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Message 1 of 19
Anonymous
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sp1 crashes my computer...

alright. i was hoping sp1 would fix problems not give me more. i can repeat
a bug every time. when i start up inventor 6 sp1 and then minimize to my
taskbar and then try to maximize from the taskbar my winnt4sp6a locks up
solid. what's up with that?

--
Mark A. Bystry
Engineer
Ziggity Systems, Inc.
mbystry@ziggity.com
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Message 2 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I know it is not required, but did you by chance perform a reboot after
installing SP1?

--
Regards,
Jason Ruge
Manufacturing Product Support
Autodesk, Inc.


"Mark A. Bystry" wrote in message
news:A8871A87FA4CEF6CA690D89CDF12C083@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> alright. i was hoping sp1 would fix problems not give me more. i can
repeat
> a bug every time. when i start up inventor 6 sp1 and then minimize to my
> taskbar and then try to maximize from the taskbar my winnt4sp6a locks up
> solid. what's up with that?
>
> --
> Mark A. Bystry
> Engineer
> Ziggity Systems, Inc.
> mbystry@ziggity.com
>
>
Message 3 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

that makes two of us sort of...

I'm not saying it's SP1 but it's odd that it was the last change to my
laptop. Rebooted after installing and now XP won't even boot. Hangs on the
welcome screen. Won't boot in the safemode or last known good config.
Finally got to a command prompt to run restore. That hangs too. So I
finally bit the bullet and tried to restore a disk mage. Nope, that hangs
too. Now I have a very nice, very expensive paperweight.

I'm not convinced it was SP1 but it seem a bit odd that it was the last
change to the computer..

--
Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
...sleep is for the weak..
-----------------------------------------
"Mark A. Bystry" wrote in message
news:A8871A87FA4CEF6CA690D89CDF12C083@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> alright. i was hoping sp1 would fix problems not give me more. i can
repeat
> a bug every time. when i start up inventor 6 sp1 and then minimize to my
> taskbar and then try to maximize from the taskbar my winnt4sp6a locks up
> solid. what's up with that?
>
> --
> Mark A. Bystry
> Engineer
> Ziggity Systems, Inc.
> mbystry@ziggity.com
>
>
Message 4 of 19
jorgen
in reply to: Anonymous

I think I'm seeing some strange things as well.
At first, everything was fine, but after a few hours, IV crashed when opening my assys, created in R5.3 and migrated in R6sp0.
A repair did not help. I had to uninstall IV, and reinstall it to fix it. And everything was fine until a few minutes ago.
Same thing happened.
Uninstalling again now.

In addition to putting in the SP, I updated the video-driver, but that should not have anything to do with IV crashing, I think.
IV crashed using Microsoft GDI drivers as well.

Jorgen
Message 5 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Did you try resetting the BIOS defaults? Seems like BIOS or motherboard
would be good candidates for scrutiny. Problem is the computer stores don't
have laptop parts. For me, the primary deterrent to getting one.
~Larry

"Sean Dotson" wrote in message
news:6A8C87DA96806C1736F1D5350DE1F344@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> that makes two of us sort of...
>
> I'm not saying it's SP1 but it's odd that it was the last change to my
> laptop. Rebooted after installing and now XP won't even boot. Hangs on
the
> welcome screen. Won't boot in the safemode or last known good config.
> Finally got to a command prompt to run restore. That hangs too. So I
> finally bit the bullet and tried to restore a disk mage. Nope, that hangs
> too. Now I have a very nice, very expensive paperweight.
>
> I'm not convinced it was SP1 but it seem a bit odd that it was the last
> change to the computer..
>
> --
> Sean Dotson, PE
> http://www.sdotson.com
> ...sleep is for the weak..
> -----------------------------------------
> "Mark A. Bystry" wrote in message
> news:A8871A87FA4CEF6CA690D89CDF12C083@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > alright. i was hoping sp1 would fix problems not give me more. i can
> repeat
> > a bug every time. when i start up inventor 6 sp1 and then minimize to my
> > taskbar and then try to maximize from the taskbar my winnt4sp6a locks up
> > solid. what's up with that?
> >
> > --
> > Mark A. Bystry
> > Engineer
> > Ziggity Systems, Inc.
> > mbystry@ziggity.com
> >
> >
>
>
Message 6 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Can't even get into the BIOS. It ignore the DEL key to enter BIOS. I'm
leaning towards a bad sector in the boot record of the HD. Gotta love those
warranties...it's gonna go back to Toshiba for diagnosis. I think I'm going
to have withdrawal not having my laptop for a week. Guess I have to dust
off the old desktop unit..

I agree, I'd love to have them just ship me a HD and let me do the work. I
hate having other people mess with my computers...

--
Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
...sleep is for the weak..
-----------------------------------------
"Larry Caldwell" wrote in message
news:467B05E99E907943735B921E4A119CD4@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Did you try resetting the BIOS defaults? Seems like BIOS or motherboard
> would be good candidates for scrutiny. Problem is the computer stores
don't
> have laptop parts. For me, the primary deterrent to getting one.
> ~Larry
>
> "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
> news:6A8C87DA96806C1736F1D5350DE1F344@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > that makes two of us sort of...
> >
> > I'm not saying it's SP1 but it's odd that it was the last change to my
> > laptop. Rebooted after installing and now XP won't even boot. Hangs on
> the
> > welcome screen. Won't boot in the safemode or last known good config.
> > Finally got to a command prompt to run restore. That hangs too. So I
> > finally bit the bullet and tried to restore a disk mage. Nope, that
hangs
> > too. Now I have a very nice, very expensive paperweight.
> >
> > I'm not convinced it was SP1 but it seem a bit odd that it was the last
> > change to the computer..
> >
> > --
> > Sean Dotson, PE
> > http://www.sdotson.com
> > ...sleep is for the weak..
> > -----------------------------------------
> > "Mark A. Bystry" wrote in message
> > news:A8871A87FA4CEF6CA690D89CDF12C083@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > alright. i was hoping sp1 would fix problems not give me more. i can
> > repeat
> > > a bug every time. when i start up inventor 6 sp1 and then minimize to
my
> > > taskbar and then try to maximize from the taskbar my winnt4sp6a locks
up
> > > solid. what's up with that?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mark A. Bystry
> > > Engineer
> > > Ziggity Systems, Inc.
> > > mbystry@ziggity.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 7 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Will it boot off a floppy? Consider a visit to http://www.bootdisk.com.
Perhaps there is a way of at least checking out what is where. Not
being able to get into the bios sounds more like motherboard though.

Sean Dotson wrote:

>Can't even get into the BIOS. It ignore the DEL key to enter BIOS. I'm
>leaning towards a bad sector in the boot record of the HD. Gotta love those
>warranties...it's gonna go back to Toshiba for diagnosis. I think I'm going
>to have withdrawal not having my laptop for a week. Guess I have to dust
>off the old desktop unit..
>
>I agree, I'd love to have them just ship me a HD and let me do the work. I
>hate having other people mess with my computers...
>
>--
>Sean Dotson, PE
>http://www.sdotson.com
>...sleep is for the weak..
>-----------------------------------------
>"Larry Caldwell" wrote in message
>news:467B05E99E907943735B921E4A119CD4@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
>
>
>>Did you try resetting the BIOS defaults? Seems like BIOS or motherboard
>>would be good candidates for scrutiny. Problem is the computer stores
>>
>>
>don't
>
>
>>have laptop parts. For me, the primary deterrent to getting one.
>>~Larry
>>
>>"Sean Dotson" wrote in message
>>news:6A8C87DA96806C1736F1D5350DE1F344@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
>>
>>
>>>that makes two of us sort of...
>>>
>>>I'm not saying it's SP1 but it's odd that it was the last change to my
>>>laptop. Rebooted after installing and now XP won't even boot. Hangs on
>>>
>>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>>welcome screen. Won't boot in the safemode or last known good config.
>>>Finally got to a command prompt to run restore. That hangs too. So I
>>>finally bit the bullet and tried to restore a disk mage. Nope, that
>>>
>>>
>hangs
>
>
>>>too. Now I have a very nice, very expensive paperweight.
>>>
>>>I'm not convinced it was SP1 but it seem a bit odd that it was the last
>>>change to the computer..
>>>
>>>--
>>>Sean Dotson, PE
>>>http://www.sdotson.com
>>>...sleep is for the weak..
>>>-----------------------------------------
>>>"Mark A. Bystry" wrote in message
>>>news:A8871A87FA4CEF6CA690D89CDF12C083@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
>>>
>>>
>>>>alright. i was hoping sp1 would fix problems not give me more. i can
>>>>
>>>>
>>>repeat
>>>
>>>
>>>>a bug every time. when i start up inventor 6 sp1 and then minimize to
>>>>
>>>>
>my
>
>
>>>>taskbar and then try to maximize from the taskbar my winnt4sp6a locks
>>>>
>>>>
>up
>
>
>>>>solid. what's up with that?
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Mark A. Bystry
>>>>Engineer
>>>>Ziggity Systems, Inc.
>>>>mbystry@ziggity.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
Message 8 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

It'll boot off a bootdisk but nothing else can be done after this point.
Formatting hangs, reinstalling a disk image hangs, everything hangs. I
appreciate everyone's help but I don't want to get too off topic. I just
thought it odd that SP1 was the last thing changed on the machine.

Thanks for the suggestions...

Now it's Toshiba's problem


--
Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
...sleep is for the weak..
-----------------------------------------
"Charles Bliss" wrote in message
news:3DD8FC8B.9000804@cbliss.com...
> Will it boot off a floppy? Consider a visit to http://www.bootdisk.com.
> Perhaps there is a way of at least checking out what is where. Not
> being able to get into the bios sounds more like motherboard though.
>
> Sean Dotson wrote:
>
> >Can't even get into the BIOS. It ignore the DEL key to enter BIOS. I'm
> >leaning towards a bad sector in the boot record of the HD. Gotta love
those
> >warranties...it's gonna go back to Toshiba for diagnosis. I think I'm
going
> >to have withdrawal not having my laptop for a week. Guess I have to dust
> >off the old desktop unit..
> >
> >I agree, I'd love to have them just ship me a HD and let me do the work.
I
> >hate having other people mess with my computers...
> >
> >--
> >Sean Dotson, PE
> >http://www.sdotson.com
> >...sleep is for the weak..
> >-----------------------------------------
> >"Larry Caldwell" wrote in message
> >news:467B05E99E907943735B921E4A119CD4@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> >
> >
> >>Did you try resetting the BIOS defaults? Seems like BIOS or motherboard
> >>would be good candidates for scrutiny. Problem is the computer stores
> >>
> >>
> >don't
> >
> >
> >>have laptop parts. For me, the primary deterrent to getting one.
> >>~Larry
> >>
> >>"Sean Dotson" wrote in message
> >>news:6A8C87DA96806C1736F1D5350DE1F344@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> >>
> >>
> >>>that makes two of us sort of...
> >>>
> >>>I'm not saying it's SP1 but it's odd that it was the last change to my
> >>>laptop. Rebooted after installing and now XP won't even boot. Hangs
on
> >>>
> >>>
> >>the
> >>
> >>
> >>>welcome screen. Won't boot in the safemode or last known good config.
> >>>Finally got to a command prompt to run restore. That hangs too. So I
> >>>finally bit the bullet and tried to restore a disk mage. Nope, that
> >>>
> >>>
> >hangs
> >
> >
> >>>too. Now I have a very nice, very expensive paperweight.
> >>>
> >>>I'm not convinced it was SP1 but it seem a bit odd that it was the last
> >>>change to the computer..
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Sean Dotson, PE
> >>>http://www.sdotson.com
> >>>...sleep is for the weak..
> >>>-----------------------------------------
> >>>"Mark A. Bystry" wrote in message
> >>>news:A8871A87FA4CEF6CA690D89CDF12C083@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>alright. i was hoping sp1 would fix problems not give me more. i can
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>repeat
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>a bug every time. when i start up inventor 6 sp1 and then minimize to
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >my
> >
> >
> >>>>taskbar and then try to maximize from the taskbar my winnt4sp6a locks
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >up
> >
> >
> >>>>solid. what's up with that?
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Mark A. Bystry
> >>>>Engineer
> >>>>Ziggity Systems, Inc.
> >>>>mbystry@ziggity.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
Message 9 of 19
rllthomas
in reply to: Anonymous

If your bios can't be entered then your problem is at the hardware level. No messing around with disks will help because your computer is having problems before it ever even tries to read the contents of any disk, floppy or otherwise. About the only thing I can suggest trying is 1) Seeing if you have a motherboard jumper or something that sets the bios back to factory defaults. Many desktops have this. 2) Flashing your bios.

Rich Thomas
Message 10 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

It's a laptop (and it's under warranty)  so no
jumpers to easily access and I'm not gonna crack that sucker open.  I'm
very comfortable with desktops but these laptops are so tiny now days I'm not
touching it.

 

I'm not convinced it's the BIOS as it attempts to
boot (get to the splash screen and even sometimes the command prompt) but it's
odd that it ignore the DEL key to enter the BIOS setup.

 

Anyway as I said.  It's Toshiba's problem
now...

 

Thanks...


--
Sean Dotson, PE

href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com

...sleep is for the
weak..
-----------------------------------------


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
If
your bios can't be entered then your problem is at the hardware level. No
messing around with disks will help because your computer is having problems
before it ever even tries to read the contents of any disk, floppy or
otherwise. About the only thing I can suggest trying is 1) Seeing if you have
a motherboard jumper or something that sets the bios back to factory defaults.
Many desktops have this. 2) Flashing your bios.

Rich Thomas

Message 11 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Jason,

I just completed the SP1 install on a fresh install of R6 (rebooted after
the R6 install), and after the SP1 install I was prompted to reboot. It
seems a reboot IS required when installing SP1. Is this normal?

BTW, I always reboot after an install or SP update, just to be SAFE 😉

--
Dan Sponholz
Mercury Marine


"Jason Ruge (Autodesk Support)" wrote in
message news:48D9054DD8CCA3849C83B5925D1CB3C3@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I know it is not required, but did you by chance perform a reboot after
> installing SP1?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Jason Ruge
> Manufacturing Product Support
> Autodesk, Inc.
>
>
> "Mark A. Bystry" wrote in message
> news:A8871A87FA4CEF6CA690D89CDF12C083@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > alright. i was hoping sp1 would fix problems not give me more. i can
> repeat
> > a bug every time. when i start up inventor 6 sp1 and then minimize to my
> > taskbar and then try to maximize from the taskbar my winnt4sp6a locks up
> > solid. what's up with that?
> >
> > --
> > Mark A. Bystry
> > Engineer
> > Ziggity Systems, Inc.
> > mbystry@ziggity.com
> >
> >
>
>
Message 12 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

sorry i didn't get back with you. i have crashed my computer. had to
reformat. all sorts of crazy things happened after i installed sp1. not real
happy about it. got a lot of work ahead of me by means of reinstalling every
piece of software that i own back onto my computer. i'll be down for a day
or two...


"Jason Ruge (Autodesk Support)" wrote in
message news:48D9054DD8CCA3849C83B5925D1CB3C3@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I know it is not required, but did you by chance perform a reboot after
> installing SP1?
>
> --
> Regards,
> Jason Ruge
> Manufacturing Product Support
> Autodesk, Inc.
>
>
> "Mark A. Bystry" wrote in message
> news:A8871A87FA4CEF6CA690D89CDF12C083@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > alright. i was hoping sp1 would fix problems not give me more. i can
> repeat
> > a bug every time. when i start up inventor 6 sp1 and then minimize to my
> > taskbar and then try to maximize from the taskbar my winnt4sp6a locks up
> > solid. what's up with that?
> >
> > --
> > Mark A. Bystry
> > Engineer
> > Ziggity Systems, Inc.
> > mbystry@ziggity.com
> >
> >
>
>
Message 13 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

FWIW, I ran into a similar problem with my Gateway
laptop.  I really thought it was toast.  After booting to a command
"console" there were two utilities to run.  One to restore the Master Boot
Record and the other to rebuild the windows boot loader.  Amazingly I lost
no files during the ordeal.

 

-Russ


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It's a laptop (and it's under warranty)  so
no jumpers to easily access and I'm not gonna crack that sucker open. 
I'm very comfortable with desktops but these laptops are so tiny now days I'm
not touching it.

 

I'm not convinced it's the BIOS as it attempts to
boot (get to the splash screen and even sometimes the command prompt) but it's
odd that it ignore the DEL key to enter the BIOS setup.

 

Anyway as I said.  It's Toshiba's problem
now...

 

Thanks...


--
Sean Dotson, PE

href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com

...sleep is for
the weak..
-----------------------------------------


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
If
your bios can't be entered then your problem is at the hardware level. No
messing around with disks will help because your computer is having problems
before it ever even tries to read the contents of any disk, floppy or
otherwise. About the only thing I can suggest trying is 1) Seeing if you
have a motherboard jumper or something that sets the bios back to factory
defaults. Many desktops have this. 2) Flashing your bios.

Rich Thomas

Message 14 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

That's the reason a lot of use a drive image made after a good clean
installation. Then it only takes about half-an-hour to be back in tall
cotton.
~Larry


"Mark A. Bystry" wrote in message
news:C1272B8F9DEE8F6D777D84BB90BA4D6B@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> sorry i didn't get back with you. i have crashed my computer. had to
> reformat. all sorts of crazy things happened after i installed sp1. not
real
> happy about it. got a lot of work ahead of me by means of reinstalling
every
> piece of software that i own back onto my computer. i'll be down for a day
> or two...
>
>
> "Jason Ruge (Autodesk Support)" wrote in
> message news:48D9054DD8CCA3849C83B5925D1CB3C3@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I know it is not required, but did you by chance perform a reboot after
> > installing SP1?
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Jason Ruge
> > Manufacturing Product Support
> > Autodesk, Inc.
> >
> >
> > "Mark A. Bystry" wrote in message
> > news:A8871A87FA4CEF6CA690D89CDF12C083@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > alright. i was hoping sp1 would fix problems not give me more. i can
> > repeat
> > > a bug every time. when i start up inventor 6 sp1 and then minimize to
my
> > > taskbar and then try to maximize from the taskbar my winnt4sp6a locks
up
> > > solid. what's up with that?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mark A. Bystry
> > > Engineer
> > > Ziggity Systems, Inc.
> > > mbystry@ziggity.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Message 15 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

If anyone was interested my laptop had a bad boot sector on
the HD.  A physical scratch where the head hit the disk.  They said
they hadn't seen this in years.

 

1.5 days turnaround to ship to TN and get it back.  Not
too shabby...

 

Now I just need to load up everything again 😞

 

-Sean


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FWIW, I ran into a similar problem with my
Gateway laptop.  I really thought it was toast.  After booting to a
command "console" there were two utilities to run.  One to restore the
Master Boot Record and the other to rebuild the windows boot loader. 
Amazingly I lost no files during the ordeal.

 

-Russ


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

It's a laptop (and it's under warranty) 
so no jumpers to easily access and I'm not gonna crack that sucker
open.  I'm very comfortable with desktops but these laptops are so tiny
now days I'm not touching it.

 

I'm not convinced it's the BIOS as it attempts
to boot (get to the splash screen and even sometimes the command prompt) but
it's odd that it ignore the DEL key to enter the BIOS setup.

 

Anyway as I said.  It's Toshiba's problem
now...

 

Thanks...


--
Sean Dotson, PE

href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com

...sleep is for
the weak..
-----------------------------------------


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
If
your bios can't be entered then your problem is at the hardware level. No
messing around with disks will help because your computer is having
problems before it ever even tries to read the contents of any disk,
floppy or otherwise. About the only thing I can suggest trying is 1)
Seeing if you have a motherboard jumper or something that sets the bios
back to factory defaults. Many desktops have this. 2) Flashing your bios.

Rich Thomas

Message 16 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Day and a half huh. That's really good. I had heard that Toshiba was
beefing up its service. They had gotten terrible. I remember when they
were the laptop to have.


"Sean Dotson" wrote in message
news:2FFB2684F60EF9FE438C0A96297AD0BF@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
If anyone was interested my laptop had a bad boot sector on the HD. A
physical scratch where the head hit the disk. They said they hadn't seen
this in years.

1.5 days turnaround to ship to TN and get it back. Not too shabby...

Now I just need to load up everything again 😞

-Sean
Message 17 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I just read a message from my Dell notebook mailing
list where one guy had his laptop with him camping and some wild animal tossed
his notebook into the bushes and it stopped working.  He called Tech
support and they sent a service technician to him - it wasn't 24hr service like
was promised but it was 48 hours and he wasn't complaining since they actually
came right to his campsite and fixed the machine on the picnic table.  He
said his buddies were more impressed than the Fed Ex delivery the day before
<g>.


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If anyone was interested my laptop had a bad boot sector on
the HD.  A physical scratch where the head hit the disk.  They said
they hadn't seen this in years.

 

1.5 days turnaround to ship to TN and get it back.  Not
too shabby...

 

Now I just need to load up everything again 😞

 

-Sean


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

FWIW, I ran into a similar problem with my
Gateway laptop.  I really thought it was toast.  After booting to
a command "console" there were two utilities to run.  One to restore
the Master Boot Record and the other to rebuild the windows boot
loader.  Amazingly I lost no files during the ordeal.

 

-Russ


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It's a laptop (and it's under warranty) 
so no jumpers to easily access and I'm not gonna crack that sucker
open.  I'm very comfortable with desktops but these laptops are so
tiny now days I'm not touching it.

 

I'm not convinced it's the BIOS as it
attempts to boot (get to the splash screen and even sometimes the command
prompt) but it's odd that it ignore the DEL key to enter the BIOS
setup.

 

Anyway as I said.  It's Toshiba's
problem now...

 

Thanks...


--
Sean Dotson, PE

href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com

...sleep is
for the weak..
-----------------------------------------


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If
your bios can't be entered then your problem is at the hardware level.
No messing around with disks will help because your computer is having
problems before it ever even tries to read the contents of any disk,
floppy or otherwise. About the only thing I can suggest trying is 1)
Seeing if you have a motherboard jumper or something that sets the bios
back to factory defaults. Many desktops have this. 2) Flashing your
bios.

Rich
Thomas

Message 18 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Dude! ... y'r fix'n a Dell!
<G>

~Larry


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I just read a message from my Dell notebook
mailing list where one guy had his laptop with him camping and some wild
animal tossed his notebook into the bushes and it stopped working.  He
called Tech support and they sent a service technician to him - it wasn't 24hr
service like was promised but it was 48 hours and he wasn't complaining since
they actually came right to his campsite and fixed the machine on the picnic
table.  He said his buddies were more impressed than the Fed Ex delivery
the day before <g>.


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If anyone was interested my laptop had a bad boot sector
on the HD.  A physical scratch where the head hit the disk.  They
said they hadn't seen this in years.

 

1.5 days turnaround to ship to TN and get it back. 
Not too shabby...

 

Now I just need to load up everything again
:(

 

-Sean


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FWIW, I ran into a similar problem with my
Gateway laptop.  I really thought it was toast.  After booting
to a command "console" there were two utilities to run.  One to
restore the Master Boot Record and the other to rebuild the windows boot
loader.  Amazingly I lost no files during the ordeal.

 

-Russ


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It's a laptop (and it's under
warranty)  so no jumpers to easily access and I'm not gonna crack
that sucker open.  I'm very comfortable with desktops but these
laptops are so tiny now days I'm not touching it.

 

I'm not convinced it's the BIOS as it
attempts to boot (get to the splash screen and even sometimes the
command prompt) but it's odd that it ignore the DEL key to enter the
BIOS setup.

 

Anyway as I said.  It's Toshiba's
problem now...

 

Thanks...


--
Sean Dotson, PE

href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com

...sleep is
for the weak..
-----------------------------------------


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If
your bios can't be entered then your problem is at the hardware level.
No messing around with disks will help because your computer is having
problems before it ever even tries to read the contents of any disk,
floppy or otherwise. About the only thing I can suggest trying is 1)
Seeing if you have a motherboard jumper or something that sets the
bios back to factory defaults. Many desktops have this. 2) Flashing
your bios.

Rich
Thomas

Message 19 of 19
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Camping? With a Laptop and FedEx?  And I
thought I was a geek!

 

Keith


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I just read a message from my Dell notebook
mailing list where one guy had his laptop with him camping and some wild
animal tossed his notebook into the bushes and it stopped working.  He
called Tech support and they sent a service technician to him - it wasn't 24hr
service like was promised but it was 48 hours and he wasn't complaining since
they actually came right to his campsite and fixed the machine on the picnic
table.  He said his buddies were more impressed than the Fed Ex delivery
the day before <g>.


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

If anyone was interested my laptop had a bad boot sector
on the HD.  A physical scratch where the head hit the disk.  They
said they hadn't seen this in years.

 

1.5 days turnaround to ship to TN and get it back. 
Not too shabby...

 

Now I just need to load up everything again
:(

 

-Sean


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

FWIW, I ran into a similar problem with my
Gateway laptop.  I really thought it was toast.  After booting
to a command "console" there were two utilities to run.  One to
restore the Master Boot Record and the other to rebuild the windows boot
loader.  Amazingly I lost no files during the ordeal.

 

-Russ


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

It's a laptop (and it's under
warranty)  so no jumpers to easily access and I'm not gonna crack
that sucker open.  I'm very comfortable with desktops but these
laptops are so tiny now days I'm not touching it.

 

I'm not convinced it's the BIOS as it
attempts to boot (get to the splash screen and even sometimes the
command prompt) but it's odd that it ignore the DEL key to enter the
BIOS setup.

 

Anyway as I said.  It's Toshiba's
problem now...

 

Thanks...


--
Sean Dotson, PE

href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com

...sleep is
for the weak..
-----------------------------------------


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If
your bios can't be entered then your problem is at the hardware level.
No messing around with disks will help because your computer is having
problems before it ever even tries to read the contents of any disk,
floppy or otherwise. About the only thing I can suggest trying is 1)
Seeing if you have a motherboard jumper or something that sets the
bios back to factory defaults. Many desktops have this. 2) Flashing
your bios.

Rich
Thomas

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