Seem welding of rolled sheet metal parts with a gap?`

[Anonymous]

HEEEEELLLLLLLLP,



I was wondering if anyone has rolled a sheet metal part (~ 358deg) and then
tried to weld it in an assembly. I would like to use the Fillet Weld if
possible. I have prep'd. the joint with a 1/16 chamfer and there is a
physical gap between the two (2) ends of the rolled piece of 0.125" thick
sheet metal of about 0.00008". (That's right, ~0.00008".) Why doesn't the
Fillet Weld fill it. |-) I have other areas where there is a gap and the
Fillet Weld will fill those areas. Is this because I'm trying to weld a
piece to itself? Does IV7 know this in some way? The Cosmetic Weld for
this gap works fine. I am looking to make the model as accurate as possible
(mass, esthetics, ...).



I have searched the IV6 & IV7 NGs, and other heavy user's web sites. I
have not found what I need to know, how to Fillet Weld a seam.



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Mark Z

IV7

XP Pro (SP1)

Dell PWS 350 - P2.2 {512Mb}

PNY NVIDIA 750XGL {128Mb}

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[Anonymous]

Anybody out there?

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Mark Z
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"Mark Zimmerle" wrote in message
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> HEEEEELLLLLLLLP,
>
>
>
> I was wondering if anyone has rolled a sheet metal part (~ 358deg) and
then
> tried to weld it in an assembly. I would like to use the Fillet Weld if
> possible. I have prep'd. the joint with a 1/16 chamfer and there is a
> physical gap between the two (2) ends of the rolled piece of 0.125" thick
> sheet metal of about 0.00008". (That's right, ~0.00008".) Why doesn't
the
> Fillet Weld fill it. |-) I have other areas where there is a gap and the
> Fillet Weld will fill those areas. Is this because I'm trying to weld a
> piece to itself? Does IV7 know this in some way? The Cosmetic Weld for
> this gap works fine. I am looking to make the model as accurate as
possible
> (mass, esthetics, ...).
>
>
>
> I have searched the IV6 & IV7 NGs, and other heavy user's web sites. I
> have not found what I need to know, how to Fillet Weld a seam.
>
>
>
> --
> Mark Z
>
> IV7
>
> XP Pro (SP1)
>
> Dell PWS 350 - P2.2 {512Mb}
>
> PNY NVIDIA 750XGL {128Mb}
>
> --
>
>
>
>

[Anonymous]

Fillet does not "fill it" 🙂 IV can not weld gaps closed yet, and can not weld a
part to itself. (afaik)

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Dave Jacquemotte
Automation Designer

[Anonymous]

Dave,

I've been watching the Sheet metal and welding tips thrown out there and
have gotten some great tips, but they don't apply to the situationat hand.

Any suggestions on how to accomplish this task?
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Mark Z
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"Dave J" wrote in message
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> Fillet does not "fill it" 🙂 IV can not weld gaps closed yet, and can not
weld a
> part to itself. (afaik)
>
> --
> Dave Jacquemotte
> Automation Designer
>
>
>
>

[Anonymous]

I'm no weld expert, but I would probably try to model the actual weld as a part
and mark it reference so it doesn't show up in the parts list.

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Dave Jacquemotte
Automation Designer

[Anonymous]

Mark,

With the current release the only option you have would be to use a
"cosmetic" weld.

As pointed out, the current release (6 or 7) does not support filling gaps
with the solid weld.

The cosmetic bead should handle your case.

G

[Anonymous]

This seems (no pun intended) to be a defficiency with the "weld" feature.
Will this be further developed in IV8 (Please)? Will 7SP1/8 incorp. broader
range of weld cap. (ie. - filling gaps, weld-part-to-self, weld-to-weld,
woel-to-text, ...)

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Mark Z
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"Gary R Smith (Autodesk)" wrote in message
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> Mark,
>
> With the current release the only option you have would be to use a
> "cosmetic" weld.
>
> As pointed out, the current release (6 or 7) does not support filling gaps
> with the solid weld.
>
> The cosmetic bead should handle your case.
>
> G
>
>

[Anonymous]

On Thu, 29 May 2003 06:13:53 -0700, Mark Zimmerle
wrote:

> This seems (no pun intended) to be a defficiency with the "weld" feature.
> Will this be further developed in IV8 (Please)? Will 7SP1/8 incorp.
> broader


It has earlier been stated thar weldings are a work in progress, ant that
you only have seen some of it yet.

I would be surprised if we did not see new weld-functionality in R8
(but stranger things have been known to happen).

By the way, the same was said about model tolerances.
(I'm waiting for more here in R8)



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Jorgen Bjornes
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I'm currently available for short-term, long-term or permanent jobs.
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[Anonymous]

I know this was stated earlier, but I wanted to reitierate it so that "the
squeaky wheel gets the oil", that is the IV8 oil.

While I'm listing out a "welding wish list", can 7:1/8 allow a weld over a
"broken" line. (See attached JPG file.)

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Mark Z
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"Jorgen Bjornes" wrote in message
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> On Thu, 29 May 2003 06:13:53 -0700, Mark Zimmerle
> wrote:
>
> > This seems (no pun intended) to be a defficiency with the "weld"
feature.
> > Will this be further developed in IV8 (Please)? Will 7SP1/8 incorp.
> > broader
>
>
> It has earlier been stated thar weldings are a work in progress, ant that
> you only have seen some of it yet.
>
> I would be surprised if we did not see new weld-functionality in R8
> (but stranger things have been known to happen).
>
> By the way, the same was said about model tolerances.
> (I'm waiting for more here in R8)
>
>
>
> --
> Jorgen Bjornes
> ----------------------------------------------
> Are you located in the Oslo-area, and need a Mechanical Engineer who
really
> knows Inventor?
> I'm currently available for short-term, long-term or permanent jobs.
> See www.bjornes.org for more info and resume (in Norwegian).
> ----------------------------------------------

[Anonymous]

Work continues on the welding functionality.

There will be some minor changes to the GUI (major if you live in Germany
;-) in the next release however the enhancements to include more robust
treatment of gap/groove welds remains somewhat farther down the road.

Rest assured that we are well aware of the issues.

G

[Anonymous]

Gary,

What are some of the features we can look forward to for IV8?

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Mark Z
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"Gary R Smith (Autodesk)" wrote in message
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> Work continues on the welding functionality.
>
> There will be some minor changes to the GUI (major if you live in Germany
> 😉 in the next release however the enhancements to include more robust
> treatment of gap/groove welds remains somewhat farther down the road.
>
> Rest assured that we are well aware of the issues.
>
> G
>
>

[Anonymous]

Think if he told ya he'd have to kill ya or get the boot.
~Larry

"Mark Zimmerle" wrote in message
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> Gary,
>
> What are some of the features we can look forward to for IV8?
>
> --
> Mark Z
> --
> "Gary R Smith (Autodesk)" wrote in message
> news:CC69261D18E428476D5403533119306D@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Work continues on the welding functionality.
> >
> > There will be some minor changes to the GUI (major if you live in
Germany
> > 😉 in the next release however the enhancements to include more robust
> > treatment of gap/groove welds remains somewhat farther down the road.
> >
> > Rest assured that we are well aware of the issues.
> >
> > G
> >
> >
>
>