section view in an idw.....

[Anonymous]

I'd like to show a full section thru a cylinder. The parent view is looking
at the cylinder from the top. I want a cutting line staring at 12oclock
going to the center of the cylinder and making a right angle to capture
details at the 3 oclock position. It keeps giving me a "half" section. I'd
like to over ride this, is it possible?

[Anonymous]

If you want a section just use a straight section line through the part.
From your description, it seems like you are defining exactly what you get.
~Larry

"Mark V" wrote in message
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> I'd like to show a full section thru a cylinder. The parent view is
looking
> at the cylinder from the top. I want a cutting line staring at 12oclock
> going to the center of the cylinder and making a right angle to capture
> details at the 3 oclock position. It keeps giving me a "half" section. I'd
> like to over ride this, is it possible?
>
>

[Anonymous]

Allow me to clarify... I can make a full section thru a part with a
straight section line, true. I can also make a full section thru a part if
i start my section line at 12 oclock, stop at the center and from the center
go in any angle greater than 90 deg from the initial segment. in other
words, a 120 degree segmented section line will give me a full section but a
90 degree segmented line will not. I'd simply like to overtide the
automatic half section it gives me.
"Larry Caldwell" wrote in message
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> If you want a section just use a straight section line through the part.
> From your description, it seems like you are defining exactly what you
get.
> ~Larry
>
> "Mark V" wrote in message
> news:B1A8F9EAE820AFD75943E5FF5E6D10F3@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I'd like to show a full section thru a cylinder. The parent view is
> looking
> > at the cylinder from the top. I want a cutting line staring at 12oclock
> > going to the center of the cylinder and making a right angle to capture
> > details at the 3 oclock position. It keeps giving me a "half" section.
I'd
> > like to over ride this, is it possible?
> >
> >
>
>

[Anonymous]

I don't think that can be done.

"Mark V" wrote in message
news:D3FCE33093E89EA5834E9258050A28C1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Allow me to clarify... I can make a full section thru a part with a
> straight section line, true. I can also make a full section thru a part
if
> i start my section line at 12 oclock, stop at the center and from the
center
> go in any angle greater than 90 deg from the initial segment. in other
> words, a 120 degree segmented section line will give me a full section but
a
> 90 degree segmented line will not. I'd simply like to overtide the
> automatic half section it gives me.
> "Larry Caldwell" wrote in message
> news:380E806D5B22760198C43C4B90725A65@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > If you want a section just use a straight section line through the part.
> > From your description, it seems like you are defining exactly what you
> get.
> > ~Larry
> >
> > "Mark V" wrote in message
> > news:B1A8F9EAE820AFD75943E5FF5E6D10F3@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > I'd like to show a full section thru a cylinder. The parent view is
> > looking
> > > at the cylinder from the top. I want a cutting line staring at
12oclock
> > > going to the center of the cylinder and making a right angle to
capture
> > > details at the 3 oclock position. It keeps giving me a "half" section.
> I'd
> > > like to over ride this, is it possible?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Anonymous]

Have you tried dimensioning the angle of the cutting plane line in the
sketch to something like 91°?

--
Hal Gwin
Mechanical Designer
Xenogen

[Anonymous]

"Mark V" wrote in message
news:D3FCE33093E89EA5834E9258050A28C1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Allow me to clarify... I can make a full section thru a part with a
> straight section line, true. I can also make a full section thru a part
if
> i start my section line at 12 oclock, stop at the center and from the
center
> go in any angle greater than 90 deg from the initial segment. in other
> words, a 120 degree segmented section line will give me a full section but
a
> 90 degree segmented line will not. I'd simply like to overtide the
> automatic half section it gives me.

I just did some experimenting, and if you don't create the cutting plane
line at a right angle you can achieve what you are trying to do. After
creating the section, edit the sketch that is created for the cutting plane
line and put in an angular dimension. As long as the angle is greater than
90° you will get full section. You can then delete the dimension. At
exactly 90° IV defaults to a half section, which it should.

--
Hal Gwin
Mechanical Designer
Xenogen

[Anonymous]

Thats what I thought Hal, I wish there were an option to over-ride that.
hmmm wish list?


Thanks!
Mark

[Anonymous]

I'm trying to think why you would want to do that? You would have the
section line indicating a half section view but no half section view for the
machinist to look at. (Hey ... where in the heck did he put that half
section view? Am I missing a sheet?).
~Larry

"Mark V" wrote in message
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> Thats what I thought Hal, I wish there were an option to over-ride that.
> hmmm wish list?
>
>
> Thanks!
> Mark
>
>

[Anonymous]

lets say 2 different key features were 90 from one another, would be nice to
capture in one section.

"Larry Caldwell" wrote in message
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> I'm trying to think why you would want to do that? You would have the
> section line indicating a half section view but no half section view for
the
> machinist to look at. (Hey ... where in the heck did he put that half
> section view? Am I missing a sheet?).
> ~Larry
>
> "Mark V" wrote in message
> news:DF371B56E338BF87B29AE20951CC5739@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Thats what I thought Hal, I wish there were an option to over-ride that.
> > hmmm wish list?
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Mark
> >
> >
>
>

[Anonymous]

Don't remember ever seeing it done that way, but are you saying that if you
draw the section line through both features (90° apart) that they don't both
show in the half section?
~Larry

"Mark V" wrote in message
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> lets say 2 different key features were 90 from one another, would be nice
to
> capture in one section.
>
> "Larry Caldwell" wrote in message
> news:CF5D0AFE4C5A625BED66D0583DA6A12A@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > I'm trying to think why you would want to do that? You would have the
> > section line indicating a half section view but no half section view for
> the
> > machinist to look at. (Hey ... where in the heck did he put that half
> > section view? Am I missing a sheet?).
> > ~Larry
> >
> > "Mark V" wrote in message
> > news:DF371B56E338BF87B29AE20951CC5739@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Thats what I thought Hal, I wish there were an option to over-ride
that.
> > > hmmm wish list?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Mark
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Anonymous]

No, no, no. Now you're messing with how people will read and interpret the
drawing. The ANSI/ASTM standards define how drawings and drawing views are
created and interpreted. Oddball views and conventions will only lead to
costly mistakes and lots of finger pointing to place blame.

--
Hal Gwin
Mechanical Designer
Xenogen

"Mark V" wrote in message
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> Thats what I thought Hal, I wish there were an option to over-ride that.
> hmmm wish list?
>
>
> Thanks!
> Mark
>
>

[Anonymous]

Concur Hal ... think that's the reason they went to all the trouble to
create those standards in the first place ... well ... less you want to
consider having the gun barrels fit the turrets consistently.
~Larry


"Hal Gwin" wrote in message
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> No, no, no. Now you're messing with how people will read and interpret
the
> drawing. The ANSI/ASTM standards define how drawings and drawing views
are
> created and interpreted. Oddball views and conventions will only lead to
> costly mistakes and lots of finger pointing to place blame.
>
> --
> Hal Gwin
> Mechanical Designer
> Xenogen
>
> "Mark V" wrote in message
> news:DF371B56E338BF87B29AE20951CC5739@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Thats what I thought Hal, I wish there were an option to over-ride that.
> > hmmm wish list?
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Mark
> >
> >
>
>