I saw the crash on save scenario. It's a system problem but not sure I
remember exactly what conclusions I came to about it. I reinstalled my disk
image and that fixed the problem, but I'm thinking I didn't have SP4
installed before that. It could have been an add-in as I had several I
didn't reload.
That is the scenario, however, where you are left with the "newver" files
and if you're in-place editing when it happens there's a newver file for
every part that was referenced in all open drawings when you startup again.
~Larry
"Bryan Shortall" wrote in message
news:403a46e9$1_3@newsprd01...
> I don't see a .newver file in here, unfortunately... I'll be honest, the
> other guy in our office had the problem before I did, and I figured it was
> just an error on his part, since I hadn't had any difficulty with it
> previously. However, since I saw it happen to me, I've come to think it
is
> indeed an Inventor bug. Unfortunately, it's a difficult one to test for,
> since it happens when Inventor crashes, at least as far as I can tell.
>
> But this, combined with Inventor's nasty save-on-exit bug makes me think
its
> save command isn't 100% stable. Perhaps this is something Autodesk can
> address in a future release/patch?
>
> Cheers,
>
> -Bryan
>
>
> "Larry Caldwell" wrote in message
> news:403a2f0f$1_3@newsprd01...
> > Is/was there a xxxx.newver.iam file for that assembly in the directory
> tree?
> > If there's a crash, and a file appears with the ".newver" appendage, try
> > renaming the ".newver" file to the proper name of the assembly after
> > deleting/renaming the original file. Other than that I have never seen a
> > saved file have different stuff in it than when I saved it ... that I
can
> > remember at least.
> > ~Larry
> >
> > "Bryan Shortall" wrote in message
> > news:403a1ca5$1_3@newsprd01...
> > > I, too, have noticed this pesky bug. However, I think it has recently
> > > elevated its status to a somewhat serious bug, at least at our office.
> Me
> > > and another engineer here have both encountered problems with saving
in
> IV
> > > that I believe may be related to that bug. While working on a project
> > that
> > > I was saving regularly, Inventor crashed. Now, I'd saved not more
than
> 5
> > > minutes before the crash. However, when I went back to re-open my
> > assembly,
> > > all the parts I'd added since I'd begun that day's session were gone.
> The
> > > parts themselves had been saved and updated, but they were no longer
in
> > the
> > > assembly. This is terribly disappointing, since I'd made them all
> > adaptive.
> > > They seemed to remember that they were adaptive in an assembly
> somewhere,
> > > tho, because when I tried to re-insert them into my assembly,
adaptivity
> > was
> > > disabled. I know for sure none of those parts were put in any other
> > > assemblies anywhere. This has happened to me twice, and to the other
> > > engineer in our office on at least 3 occasions.
> > >
> > > The reason I believe your bug (well, I guess it's really OUR bug, but
> the
> > > bug you wrote about, at any rate) and this bug are related, is that
your
> > bug
> > > appears to indicate that Inventor in fact ISN'T saving the assembly
when
> > you
> > > tell it to. It seems like it's keeping assemblies that I save in some
> > sort
> > > of Save Purgatory until I force the issue by actually closing out the
> > > assembly. At that point, it'll go ahead and finally write my save to
> the
> > > disk. Hence, why it keeps insisting that you need to save your
assembly
> > > before closing, despite having saved it 2 seconds ago and not altering
> > > anything since.
> > >
> > > Has anyone else encountered a failure of this type? Please let us
know
> we
> > > are not alone.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > -Bryan Shortall
> > >
> > >
> > > "Bob S." wrote in message
> > > news:403608f4$1_2@newsprd01...
> > > > I have complained on this problem ongoing since at least version
5.3.
> > > > It seems to happen for either of at least 2 reasons:
> > > >
> > > > 1. If you issue a rebuild all on an assembly with library parts.
> > > > (As of IV8 when you save afterwards you can toggle the save state
> > > > of any library parts but it hasn't seemed to help to toggle them as
> far
> > > > as IV thinking they still need updating or not.)
> > > >
> > > > 2. Working on components and subassemblies "in place". This actually
> > > > usually results in IV asking you to update the assembly the next
time
> > > > you open it. As an example of what I mean by this, I have a Base
> > > subassembly
> > > > that I reuse in my gage designs by copying it to my project dir.
After
> I
> > > place
> > > > it in the top level gage design assembly, if I enter a base
> subassembly
> > > component
> > > > to change the size of the base, and back out to the top-level to
save,
> > the
> > > next
> > > > time I open the main assembly it will say the assembly needs
updating,
> > and
> > > the
> > > > component that shows needing to be saved at this point is the base
> > > subassembly
> > > > (along with the top level assembly too).
> > > >
> > > > I have long ago relegated this as something I must live with and
have
> > > gotten
> > > > into the habit of saving and re-opening assemblies until they
finally
> > > don't complain
> > > > about needing updating anymore.
> > > >
> > > > As far as I can recall, AutoDesk IS aware of this problem, but they
> have
> > > not been
> > > > able to do much about it that I have seen.
> > > >
> > > > Bob S.
> > > >
> > > > "Ole Germer" wrote in message
> > > news:40360559_3@newsprd01...
> > > > > When existing an assembly, I usually save first. Inventor saves
but
> > 1/2
> > > > > second later when I exist it asks wheather I want to save. Is
there
> > not
> > > > > something amiss. Should it not remember? Is it trying to save
> > library
> > > > > parts , which it cannot.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Ole Germer
> > > > > Making a good involute tooth profile possible in Inventor.
> > > > > http://www.geocities.com/olegermer/index.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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