Presentation Parts List

[Anonymous]

If you have an assembly that uses 8 screws. This assembly has 2 sub-assemblies that use 4 screws each.
The company I am at brings in the Main Assembly, creates 2 Views with the visibility of the screws turned off for each of the views. Then IPN's are made from each view. They then make the Presentation drawing using the IPN's. Each IPN has it's own sheet. The problem is that in the Parts List for each sheet the QTY of the screws is 8 when in reality only 4 are used on each sheet.
I am NEW to Invnetor so my question is: Are we doing this the wrong way or is Inventor not good for this kind of Parts List?

[mcgyvr]

The parts list does NOT only include whats on the sheet. A parts list is all the parts required to make a product. You said first your assembly uses 8 screws. So 8 should be on the parts list.

[Anonymous]

Parts Lists are not associated with a view, they are associated with the
assembly used as the source of the view (or more specifically, the
assembly's BOM). In your case, the parts list just uses the view to point
to the IPN file which points to an assembly.

You can manually override the quantity in your parts list, or if the drawing
view of your IPN is just one of the isolated sub-assemblies, you can create
just a parts list of that sub-assembly. To do this, rather than selecting a
view on the parts list creation dialog, browse out and select the
sub-assembly iam file.

Hope that helps,


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If you have an assembly that uses 8 screws. This assembly has 2
sub-assemblies that use 4 screws each.
The company I am at brings in the Main Assembly, creates 2 Views with the
visibility of the screws turned off for each of the views. Then IPN's are
made from each view. They then make the Presentation drawing using the
IPN's. Each IPN has it's own sheet. The problem is that in the Parts List
for each sheet the QTY of the screws is 8 when in reality only 4 are used on
each sheet.
I am NEW to Invnetor so my question is: Are we doing this the wrong way or
is Inventor not good for this kind of Parts List?

[Anonymous]

That's what I thought, since they use the main assembly to simulate having actual sub-assemblies. The build manual part count on each sheet will always be what is used in the complete product part list.
I tried the override option and as you know that is not the way to go. Is there a way to show actual part QTY used on the sheet only but still used the standard Part List? I suppose I could created a chart to show this.
I try to avoid any overrides or other shortcuts because they usually catch up to you later.

[Anonymous]

It's been my experience that if you override the BOM on one sheet it changes the QTY of the part on all the sheets. If the number of parts are not the same on each sheet I would have the same problem of the BOM being wrong.
Remember that there is NO actually sub-assembly iam file to create the part list from in this case, just the IPN created from the View in the main assembly.

[Anonymous]

I guess that kind of begs the question: if it makes sense to break these two
chunks of the assembly up on the sheet, why not just manage them as true
sub-assemblies?


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Andrew Faix
Product Design Lead
Autodesk Inventor


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It's been my experience that if you override the BOM on one sheet it changes
the QTY of the part on all the sheets. If the number of parts are not the
same on each sheet I would have the same problem of the BOM being wrong.
Remember that there is NO actually sub-assembly iam file to create the part
list from in this case, just the IPN created from the View in the main
assembly.

[Anonymous]

That seems to be about the only way to ensure an accurate count on each sheet. The example I gave was a small one. I deal with PCB boards, all using the same screws. Breaking each assembled board into its own sub when installing it will create many subs to manage, but we need an accurate count.

[Anonymous]

That workflow doesn't make any sense to me. I would create the subassy
first and then bring it in to main assy twice, instead of creating two
views in the main assy. I would also never create a BOM off of a
presentation drawing. I would create it from the main assy dwg. The IPN
is used downstream of an assy dwg (in my opionion)

Cable J wrote:
> It's been my experience that if you override the BOM on one sheet it changes the QTY of the part on all the sheets. If the number of parts are not the same on each sheet I would have the same problem of the BOM being wrong.
> Remember that there is NO actually sub-assembly iam file to create the part list from in this case, just the IPN created from the View in the main assembly.
>

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[Anonymous]

Thanks, looks like we will need to rethink how we do things.

[Anonymous]

In the long run I think you will find it is much easier to manage your
drawing this way. I always build up my assemblies from subassemblies.

Cable J wrote:
> Thanks, looks like we will need to rethink how we do things.
>

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Robi

Dell precision PWS670
Intel Xeon CPU 3.00GHz
2.99 GHz, 2.00 GB RAM
Nvidia Quadro FX4400
Windows Pro X64 SP2
IV2009 Simulation