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PaulB108
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Picking coinciding parts for an item balloon.

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09-27-2010 06:22 PM

 

How do I pick a part to balloon it when the line is actually two parts beside each other? eg a wall sheet welded to a square column. I can 'toggle" between the two but am unable to pick the other part so continually get the item balloon for the part I don't want.

 

This has been bugging me for some time - I don't like over-riding item balloons.

 

cheers.

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IgorMir
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Re: Picking coinciding parts for an item balloon.

09-27-2010 06:43 PM in reply to: PaulB108

The only way I could think of is to turn the visibility of the unwanted part off in a drawing view. Then turn it back on after placing a needed item balloon.

The toggle option you are talking about falls into a category of "the lights are on but nobody's home".

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Igor. 

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PaulB108
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Message 3 of 14 (455 Views)

Re: Picking coinciding parts for an item balloon.

09-27-2010 10:33 PM in reply to: IgorMir

 

Thanks Igor - a "clunky" way of achieving a result but effective nonetheless. I do not understand why I get the "toggle" - it seems useless.

 

Cheers. 

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Message 4 of 14 (452 Views)

Re: Picking coinciding parts for an item balloon.

09-27-2010 10:40 PM in reply to: PaulB108

I think the toggle is there to encourage you (and others) to learn different workarounds. Imagine if the toggle worked as expected. You would never had a need to ask a question!:smileyhappy:

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Igor.

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kstate92
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Message 5 of 14 (416 Views)

Re: Picking coinciding parts for an item balloon.

09-28-2010 11:01 AM in reply to: IgorMir

Inventor should offer the same option AutoCAD (I know, I know; IV != Acad) has: using the tab key to cycle through your enabled Osnap options as a way highlight each possible part nearest  the pointer.  Plus the ability to map that function to a contextual controller button.

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Carl_mgfx
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Message 6 of 14 (245 Views)

Re: Picking coinciding parts for an item balloon.

08-13-2012 06:00 AM in reply to: PaulB108

I have recently come into this problem as well.  A customer wants to balloon items that are obscured by other parts or share the same edges.  It is not always possible (or practical) to set the visibility of the obstructing part off, due to visual representations, and then back on after ballooning.

 

Attached is a pic that will hopefully help explain what I'm talking about (Not the data being used by our customer but a comparable example). In View 1 it is difficult to find an edge belonging to part 2 in order to balloon that part, every time an edge is selected it either balloons part 1 or 3.

 

I tried setting selection to part priority and place a balloon with the leader in the middle of the part (I know this is a possibility in other CAD packages) but found that you have to select an edge of the part.

So I thought it might be possible to cycle through the parts using the "Select other" HUD that pops up after "x" seconds, but when I select the required part in the "Select other" HUD it does nothing?

 

Have there been any fixes or improved work arounds suggested for this issue? Is there a way to use the "Select other" HUD menu or is this something Autodesk should have a look at?  I have seen a few other posts with similar themes as this.

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Carl van Rooyen
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mpatchus
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Message 7 of 14 (239 Views)

Re: Picking coinciding parts for an item balloon.

08-13-2012 06:23 AM in reply to: Carl_mgfx

Try adjusting the "Locate Tolerance" setting.

Locate Tolerance.JPG

 

You should be able to cycle through all parts that share a common edge.

Balloon Pick.JPG

 

Balloon 2.JPG

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Carl_mgfx
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Message 8 of 14 (237 Views)

Re: Picking coinciding parts for an item balloon.

08-13-2012 06:42 AM in reply to: mpatchus

Thanks for the reply.

 

Although I have no problem with cycling through the parts, its once I click to select which part I want to apply the balloon to.  The part I scroll to in the "Select other" HUD (Red insert) highlights but when I click to select it the selection defaults back to the other part (Green cylinder).... I cannot then click to place the balloon on the Red insert insted it places the balloon on the Green cylinder...

 

I hope this explination is clear enough, otherwise I will install a video capture program and post a short vid of the selection method I am using.

 

 

Kind Regards
Carl van Rooyen
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Message 9 of 14 (219 Views)

Re: Picking coinciding parts for an item balloon.

08-13-2012 08:47 AM in reply to: PaulB108

Here is another work around. For complex assemblies you might have to "attach balloon from list..."

 

 http://screencast.com/t/4yLxfYRFhye

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PaulB108
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Message 10 of 14 (205 Views)

Re: Picking coinciding parts for an item balloon.

08-13-2012 03:49 PM in reply to: PaulB108

 

Best workaround I found was to put balloon in, then right click "attach balloon from list", choose the correct part you want to balloon from the list, place balloon as required, then right click the unwanted balloon and choose "remove balloon".

 

Yet again - clunky - but does the trick.

 

 

 

Regards.

 

 

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