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Re: Open Inventor 2013 .ipt in Inventor 2012

10-02-2012 11:13 AM in reply to: mccann25

mccann25 wrote:

I mean the foundation that started your learning of SW and Inv, how long was it?


I can't really remember back that far - but I think it was a 3-day (8hr/day) training for each program.  (back around 2001)
Started with CADKey back in 1987 and then AutoCAD around 1999.  I also teach Creo (Pro/E) self-taught on that program.

Where I work we offer several 3D classes (Inventor, SolidWorks, Creo and AutoCAD) going from begining to deep into FEA and Dynamic Simulation.  The classes are offered as regular credit 5hr/week 16 week or 2 or 3 day 8hr classes to industry folks.

At some point I will try to post some examples of how I might do your assignments (I'm still trying to procure a Sham Tickoo book).  Perhaps the best way you can learn is to attach your files here (Inventor and SolidWorks) and professionals from around the world might show you different techniques they would use (there is often more than one "right" solution).

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10-02-2012 11:26 AM in reply to: mccann25

Where's the eating popcorn emoticon when ya need it!

 

This is good entertainment even though it appears to not be going anywhere.

 

Cheers to those of you who put up with this.

 

 

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Re: Open Inventor 2013 .ipt in Inventor 2012

10-02-2012 11:27 AM in reply to: ampster

Lol i know i get a new email every 15 minutes it seems from this thread.

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10-02-2012 11:31 AM in reply to: jletcher

These bad colleges area a dime a dozen, the only way to know they are bad, is by first talking to other graduates. I and my fellow graduates turned in a letter about the solitaire playing instead of instructing in our AutoCAD classes in 2005 as well as some other very childish antics, that same teacher retired this year, 7 years after they received our letter. I spoke to one of the deans at my current college about poor teachings of the trigonometry teacher, and she basically jumped on his side, and dismissed everything I said. These bad schools have marketing campaigns across the tv hat make them look like good schools, when clearly they aren't. These marketing campaigns brainwash locals into thinking man, we have a great school here in town, but once you graduate, you're just a number in the local company black book that won't get hired, cause they know how bad of a school it really is, they just keep their findings to themselves. I was actually told this by an employer after graduting, he hired me as a temp, not as a permanent hire for just this reason. This employer is a fortune 500 company- Tyson Foods Inc. Inventor is just not being called upon in my part of the country, solidworks is, therefore they can require people to exit the Inventor class inefficiently because they'll never use it again, therefore the shortcomings will never be noticed as long as the soldiworks teachings are up to par. So suing a school for being a bad school, that's an idea, but youd have to find a probono (sp) attorney. Dateline just did a story on bad schools about a month ago, they are as numerous as people change their socks. There is no way to distinguish good from bad schools. You would have to have proof of poor teaching, they'd just say the student was a poor student, and make up some excuse why if this was the fact did the student get straight As or graduate with honors. THere are a lot of injustices in this world, and bad colleges are one of them.

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Re: Open Inventor 2013 .ipt in Inventor 2012

10-02-2012 11:32 AM in reply to: mccann25

Might I ask which college you are currently attending?  It's disappointing that they would have such horrible Instructors.  No matter what you end up deciding to do, I would definitely register a complaint about the training you are receiving.

 

I sent you the information. Let me know if you need anything else!

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10-02-2012 11:38 AM in reply to: JDMather

I tried my hand at Creo this summer, well Pro/E 5.0 on my own with a SHam Tickoo book, and couldn't get past the dimension command not working, and not working like Sham said it would, I gave up after 3 days or an 10 hours total time to figure out one command that wouldn't work no matter what I did. The command and I gave up when my future job lead in Pro/E/ Creo fell through. I only cited Sham Tickoo because he's the foundation of our teachings and would detail where I'm coming from. Man 24 hours, I figured you had a lengthy course.

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10-02-2012 11:42 AM in reply to: mccann25

mccann25 wrote:

. Man 24 hours, I figured you had a lengthy course.


I did have an excellent teacher for both classes.  But don't forget the 11 years here seeing how others solve their Inventor (or SolidWorks or Creo) problems.

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Re: Open Inventor 2013 .ipt in Inventor 2012

10-02-2012 11:45 AM in reply to: mccann25

I can't remember but in states it may vary but what you need to do is get well, here in Florida anyway is get 250 people to sign a form this will start a class action suit against them and any lawyer will jump in. I had to sue a Motorcycle shop for my warranty I was told by every lawyer good luck then when I got 250 others involved I had lawyers calling me left and right. We all picked one and we won. We each got or extended warranty money back and then some the lawyer was then paid by the bike shop.. :smileyvery-happy:


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10-02-2012 11:45 AM in reply to: JohnK_TEDCF

Sorry I'd rather not mention the name of the current college, because I'm still a student, I tried to register a compalint about the Trig teacher and they wouldn't even listen, in fact two us did out of a class of ten. Most people know what Trig is, to file a complaint on Inventor they'd say what's that, then they would turn to the one teacher on campus that teaches it to elaborate. I'd gladly give the name of the college where I used to live that throws the book at you, while the teacher plays solitaire. Western Iowa Tech Community College . This teacher taught like this from 1994 to 2012, and I even spoke to several people that turned him in, yet he was still allowed to teach at the college.

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Re: Open Inventor 2013 .ipt in Inventor 2012

10-03-2012 11:48 AM in reply to: mccann25

mccann25 wrote:

You're only as good as your teacher/ book, and school. ....


There has been a lot of blame laid on teachers/book/school in this thread.

I certainly would not let any of these factors limit me.

 

I didn't find anyone around here who has Tickoo's book, but I downloaded the PowerPoints for his book and apparently all of Chapter 3 covers dimensioning and constraining sketches.  Looks like you didn't read the book.

 

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I can only lay responsibility for reading the book on the student
Did your parents pay for this class?  The government? (in other words us, the taxpayers)

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