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Open Inventor 2013 .ipt in Inventor 2012

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06-07-2012 12:42 AM

Hi,

 

I have a relativly basic ipt file in 2013 that I would like to open up in 2012 on another machine. I'm wondering if there's anyway I can open it up and edit it? It's kind of crucial and I assumed I'd be able to since the part used nothing besides the rudimentary tools that have been in inventor since the beginning...

 

Right now, I'm getting a "Database schema...which is newer than this version".

 

Thanks!

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Re: Open Inventor 2013 .ipt in Inventor 2012

06-07-2012 02:48 AM in reply to: connorzwick

Hi,

this is Limitations. "As stated previously, once a file is saved using a particular version of Inventor (for your example, Inventor 2013), that file cannot be read by an earlier version of Inventor (for yuor example, Inventor 2012)." For more informations visit this link.

 

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Re: Open Inventor 2013 .ipt in Inventor 2012

06-07-2012 04:43 AM in reply to: connorzwick

File>Save Copy As type STEP (*.stp) to open in 2012 or earlier.

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Re: Open Inventor 2013 .ipt in Inventor 2012

06-07-2012 08:18 AM in reply to: connorzwick

Why would you expect a file once migrated or created in a new version would be backwards compatible to an older version? Basic geometry and tools or features used has nothing to do with a version of a file. IIRC, I don't believe Inventor has ever been backwards compatible (or many other programs) for a slew of crucial reasons. Your only option is as JDMather suggested and that's to export out as STEP or IGES then open the file in 2012 (or older version of Inventor). Fair warning though, your file will lose all parametric history and will become a 'dumb model' for the lack of a better phrase. Yes you can use Feature Recognition to help rebuild some of the intelligence , but that will still require you to edit at sketch level if you care to fully contrain your part (which you most definitely should lol). In a nutshell, it's not wise to work in suich an evironment using different versions of Inventor. The only exception would be a test/beta environment and never work on 'live' files.

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Re: Open Inventor 2013 .ipt in Inventor 2012

09-30-2012 03:57 PM in reply to: connorzwick

Inventor is made by Autodek, and made AutoCAD to be able to save into older formats. I am a 8+ year user of AutoCAD, and have only used Inventor for 4 months, but it seems like everything that is loved about AutoCAD, Autodesk decided to not use these when they created the Inventor software. This save as older file is very crucial, and well as Offset the autocad offset, not the Inventor offset. If a company goes to buy a 3D modeling software, why would one buy Inventor, when Solidworks kills Inventor hands-down. AutoCAD is a lot easier to use than any of the above. The more I use Inventor, the more I absolutely hate this Very Inferior product. AutoCAD has a lot off issues, but with the level of issues Inventor has, it made AutoCAD look like the best software on the planet, that is how bad Inventor is, and yes I have already completed my first of two inventor classes in college, it's still no different. Inventor is a baby that needs to be babysat all the time.

 

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Re: Open Inventor 2013 .ipt in Inventor 2012

09-30-2012 04:04 PM in reply to: connorzwick

mccann25 wrote:

This save as older file is very crucia

 

...why would one buy Inventor, when Solidworks kills Inventor hands-down.

 

...., it made AutoCAD look like the best software on the planet

 

and yes I have already completed my first of two inventor classes in college....


And of course you are aware that Solidworks does not save to older version either.
Post data-set that demonstrates SolidWorks kills Inventor hands-down.

I don't know any Inventor Professionals that would make this statement.

Post example Inventor files that you completed in your college classes.

Based on your statements I can only guess you missed a few classes.

Did you attend McCann? http://www.mccann.edu/

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Re: Open Inventor 2013 .ipt in Inventor 2012

09-30-2012 04:25 PM in reply to: JDMather
    I just started my first of three classes on Solidworks, haven't gotten to the save in older format of solidworks yet. I used it several times in AutoCAD, we always did business with companies with year 2000 or 2002 year versions. Post Inventor drawings from school, these models all together encompass 18 MB in size, they are the exercises and tutorials in Sham Tickoos Inventor 2012 for Designers Book, I am currently working on chapter 9 of 18. Once done with this semester and chapter 18, I'll never touch it again. I already have an architectural drafting degree, and went back to learn Solidworks years later, they won't teach you Solidworks unless you learn it in another degree, this degree requires learning Inventor with Solidworks even concurrently. Why they would design  software that can't be saved in older versions is beyond me. Btw, they do not want these models posted to the internet from schoolwork, no idea why. After copying this to the website, and I can see you're being derogatory, the email sent to me mailbox, only listed a couple of your statements. I didn't miss a single class of Inventor and got an A in Inventor as well, actually you oughta hear everyone in class this second and last class of Inventor cuss and hollar, cause Inventor wouldn't do what it's supposed to, but after you do it 10x it finally decides to work. Yet first day of Solidworks, the software worked from the first try. I find it hard to believe anyone would love Inventor, Upon completing Inventor I won't be listing Inventor on my resume, I'd hate to babysit the software while attempting to get work done. One of the other stdents that hates Inventor is a 2 year user of Solidworks, since he knows what Solidworks can do effortless, it's quite upsetting to do the same tasks in Inventor and Inventor won't complete, even though you're done the same task several times before and it actually worked if after 10x.
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Re: Open Inventor 2013 .ipt in Inventor 2012

09-30-2012 04:52 PM in reply to: mccann25

mccann25 wrote:
    I just started my first of three classes on Solidworks, haven't gotten to the save in older format of solidworks yet....
 
Why they would design  software that can't be saved in older versions is beyond me. ...

That should have been covered in your Inventor class.  If the reasons are beyond your understanding, I suspected maybe you missed that class.


Hopefully your Solidworks instruction will be better.  Be sure to ask the instructor to explain why the SolidWorks you will be learning doesn't save to earlier version.

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Re: Open Inventor 2013 .ipt in Inventor 2012

09-30-2012 04:54 PM in reply to: mccann25

mccann25 wrote:
..... it's quite upsetting to do the same tasks in Inventor and Inventor won't complete, even though you're done the same task several times before and it actually worked if after 10x.

Post examples.

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Re: Open Inventor 2013 .ipt in Inventor 2012

09-30-2012 05:15 PM in reply to: JDMather

Nope it wasn't covered, or hasn't been yet, I haven't missed any classes period. I emailed him about the issue before I found the post about saving to an IGS file. I just thumbed through the book, and they talk about importing from AutoCAD, Solidworks etc, and they talk about the .ipt, .iam, .ipn, .idw, dwg templates, but nothing about saving to an older format  whatsoever, and no it wasn't covered in class. It was thought that school was going to version 2013, and models from last semester were version 2012, and some of these ver 2012s are being used to make assemblies now. School is staying on 2012. I downloaded the academic 2012 for my desktop at home, and academic 2013 for my laptop cause I was completing homework away from home, and the issue arose. The IGS is the fix.

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