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Mirroring an assembly part

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Message 1 of 12
ermin
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Mirroring an assembly part

Is there anyway IV6.0 will let you mirror an assembly part?

Erm
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Message 2 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: ermin

Yes. Use a derived part...

Open a new part, invoke the derived part command, and navigate to the part
you want to mirror. After you select it, check the mirror option in the
dialog box, and select OK. Save the new part, and insert it into the
assembly. It will remain adaptive to the original part, so changes made
there will be reflected in the mirrored part when you update.

Walt

"ermlen" wrote in message
news:f126c0a.-1@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Is there anyway IV6.0 will let you mirror an assembly part?
> Erm
>
>
Message 3 of 12
ermin
in reply to: ermin

It works if it is a part but if I have an assembly that I want to get the mirror part derive part wouldn't give me the option of mirroring the part.

Erm
Message 4 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: ermin

Derive the derived assembly into a new part and then you'll
have the option of mirroring


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It
works if it is a part but if I have an assembly that I want to get the mirror
part derive part wouldn't give me the option of mirroring the part.

Erm

Message 5 of 12
ermin
in reply to: ermin

Thanks. It worked. Now will IV7 or SP2 have a way to accomplish this task simpler?

Erms
Message 6 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: ermin

There have been several discussions about
this.  If you mirror the whole assembly at what point do you stop?  Do
you make left hand threads right hand threads?  Is EVERY part mirrored or
just most?  It gets to be a sticky wicket.

 

You might want to check this out.  I haven't
used it yet however...

 



--
Sean Dotson, PE

href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com

...sleep is for the
weak..
-----------------------------------------


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
Thanks.
It worked. Now will IV7 or SP2 have a way to accomplish this task simpler?

Erms

Message 7 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: ermin

Agreed, Sean.  From a programming perspective,
mirroring an assembly is MUCH more difficult than it sounds.  As I'm sure
you're aware, that application from cadstudio doesn't maintain assembly
constraints, and that would be the difficult part.  I thought about writing
an addin to do exactly that a while ago but realized very quickly that
maintaining the assembly constraints would be next to impossible - especially if
the assembly to be mirrored contained subassemblies.


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

There have been several discussions about
this.  If you mirror the whole assembly at what point do you stop? 
Do you make left hand threads right hand threads?  Is EVERY part mirrored
or just most?  It gets to be a sticky wicket.

 

You might want to check this out.  I haven't
used it yet however...

 



--
Sean Dotson, PE

href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com

...sleep is for
the weak..
-----------------------------------------


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
Thanks.
It worked. Now will IV7 or SP2 have a way to accomplish this task simpler?

Erms

Message 8 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: ermin

what about a VBA routine to shorten the
double-derive method?


--
K

 

 


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

Agreed, Sean.  From a programming
perspective, mirroring an assembly is MUCH more difficult than it
sounds.  As I'm sure you're aware, that application from cadstudio
doesn't maintain assembly constraints, and that would be the difficult
part.  I thought about writing an addin to do exactly that a while
ago but realized very quickly that maintaining the assembly constraints would
be next to impossible - especially if the assembly to be mirrored contained
subassemblies.


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

There have been several discussions about
this.  If you mirror the whole assembly at what point do you
stop?  Do you make left hand threads right hand threads?  Is EVERY
part mirrored or just most?  It gets to be a sticky
wicket.

 

You might want to check this out.  I
haven't used it yet however...

 



--
Sean Dotson, PE

href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com

...sleep is for
the weak..
-----------------------------------------


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
Thanks.
It worked. Now will IV7 or SP2 have a way to accomplish this task simpler?

Erms

Message 9 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: ermin

Does anybody know how Solidworks handles
this? I know SW can mirror parts and assy's but what are the "problems"? (if
there are any)

 

Christian.

 

 

 


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

Agreed, Sean.  From a programming
perspective, mirroring an assembly is MUCH more difficult than it
sounds.  As I'm sure you're aware, that application from cadstudio
doesn't maintain assembly constraints, and that would be the difficult
part.  I thought about writing an addin to do exactly that a while
ago but realized very quickly that maintaining the assembly constraints would
be next to impossible - especially if the assembly to be mirrored contained
subassemblies.


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

There have been several discussions about
this.  If you mirror the whole assembly at what point do you
stop?  Do you make left hand threads right hand threads?  Is EVERY
part mirrored or just most?  It gets to be a sticky
wicket.

 

You might want to check this out.  I
haven't used it yet however...

 



--
Sean Dotson, PE

href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com

...sleep is for
the weak..
-----------------------------------------


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
Thanks.
It worked. Now will IV7 or SP2 have a way to accomplish this task simpler?

Erms

Message 10 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: ermin

I have only limited knowledge on this topic in SW,
but I believe basically it guids you through by means of an assistent that asks
you all those questions that were asked here under this topic (mirror/not
mirror, new filename, etc)

I believe, all the hassle is not realy worth
it.

 

Regards,
--
Leo Laimer
Maschinen-
und Fertigungstechnik
A-4820 Bad Ischl - Austria


style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">

Does anybody know how Solidworks
handles this? I know SW can mirror parts and assy's but what are the
"problems"? (if there are any)

 

Christian.

 

 

 


style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">

Agreed, Sean.  From a programming
perspective, mirroring an assembly is MUCH more difficult than it
sounds.  As I'm sure you're aware, that application from cadstudio
doesn't maintain assembly constraints, and that would be the difficult
part.  I thought about writing an addin to do exactly that a while
ago but realized very quickly that maintaining the assembly constraints
would be next to impossible - especially if the assembly to be mirrored
contained subassemblies.


style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">

There have been several discussions about
this.  If you mirror the whole assembly at what point do you
stop?  Do you make left hand threads right hand threads?  Is
EVERY part mirrored or just most?  It gets to be a sticky
wicket.

 

You might want to check this out.  I
haven't used it yet however...

 



--
Sean Dotson, PE

href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com

...sleep is
for the weak..
-----------------------------------------


style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px">
Thanks.
It worked. Now will IV7 or SP2 have a way to accomplish this task
simpler?

Erms

Message 11 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: ermin

Leo

> I believe, all the hassle is not realy worth it.

The more I've thought about mirror, the more I can see the steps you go
through as not being worth it.

I can see that either you'll get asked too many questions, or if IV can
actually automate it there will be times when you wish it wouldn't.

Richard
Message 12 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: ermin

Thats the common sense here after many discussions.

But What I really would like to see in IV, just in addition to the
derive/mirror:

make any part, make a idw off it.
mirror the part in a way, that all sketches/features stay intact, but
mirrored, and keep the idw associated to it (better yet, rename both in DA
before mirror)
So you end up with a mirrored part, fully parametric, with a finished idw
(may need some cleanup though), but with NO parametric relation to the first
part.
This feature would save me a lot of work on occassion.

I've done this in MDT many times with great success!

Regards,
--
Leo Laimer
Maschinen- und Fertigungstechnik
A-4820 Bad Ischl - Austria


"Richard Hinterhoeller" schrieb im
Newsbeitrag news:3DE3BDD9.9050808@hfx.eastlink.ca...
> Leo
>
> > I believe, all the hassle is not realy worth it.
>
> The more I've thought about mirror, the more I can see the steps you go
> through as not being worth it.
>
> I can see that either you'll get asked too many questions, or if IV can
> actually automate it there will be times when you wish it wouldn't.
>
> Richard
>

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