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IV and a FEA program

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‎02-10-2003 08:14 PM
‎02-10-2003 08:14 PM

IV and a FEA program

We are looking for a low end FEA program for our IV assemblies. Is there one available cheap? Cheap is relative but our products are simple cabinets. It must function well but it does not have to be overly complicated. Our one engineer is working remotely, I presume he would run the software or our design drafters would with the engineer doing review.. Any ideas?
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Anonymous
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‎02-10-2003 08:33 PM
‎02-10-2003 08:33 PM

MDT has a very crude FEA program in the Power
Pack.  For a bit more sophistication I'd suggest Design Space from
Ansys.  Simple to use and not too expensive.


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Sean Dotson, PE

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We
are looking for a low end FEA program for our IV assemblies. Is there one
available cheap? Cheap is relative but our products are simple cabinets. It
must function well but it does not have to be overly complicated. Our one
engineer is working remotely, I presume he would run the software or our
design drafters would with the engineer doing review.. Any
ideas?
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎02-10-2003 08:39 PM
‎02-10-2003 08:39 PM

I had a client recommend design space too. Do you happen to know where to look for that? VAR?
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Anonymous
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‎02-10-2003 08:57 PM
‎02-10-2003 08:57 PM


 

First place to look for a local
reseller.

 

HTH

 

Rory

 

 


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I
had a client recommend design space too. Do you happen to know where to look
for that? VAR?
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Anonymous
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‎02-10-2003 08:57 PM
‎02-10-2003 08:57 PM

that looks like a winner thanks sean and rory
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Anonymous
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‎02-10-2003 10:13 PM
‎02-10-2003 10:13 PM

One downside to Designspace is that you had better
be prepared to pay $1400 a year or so in maint.  Ansys has a trick that
even though you pay your initial 5 or 6k you can't reload the program even on
your own machine. 

 

I have a case where I work for a small company and
the version I use is sufficient so I dropped the maint.  I had a hard drive
crash and tried to reload, and guess what, no luck.  I paid for the program
but unless I catch up with all the previous maint. fees I'm out of luck. 
Now I'm in for almost as much as Cosmos would cost new. 

 

Just a word of warning

 

George Clark


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

MDT has a very crude FEA program in the Power
Pack.  For a bit more sophistication I'd suggest Design Space from
Ansys.  Simple to use and not too expensive.


--
Sean Dotson, PE

href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com
Check the Inventor
FAQ for most common questions

href="http://www.sdotson.com/faq.html">www.sdotson.com/faq.html
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We
are looking for a low end FEA program for our IV assemblies. Is there one
available cheap? Cheap is relative but our products are simple cabinets. It
must function well but it does not have to be overly complicated. Our one
engineer is working remotely, I presume he would run the software or our
design drafters would with the engineer doing review.. Any
ideas?
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Anonymous
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‎02-10-2003 10:17 PM
‎02-10-2003 10:17 PM

I recommend Algor software. Their program is very, very robust and very economical. Even more so
than Ansys Design Space. Try www.algor.com. My company has been using it for a long time and
we really like it.

Michael Miller
Day-Brite Lighting
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Anonymous
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‎02-10-2003 10:55 PM
‎02-10-2003 10:55 PM

tHANKS
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Anonymous
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‎02-10-2003 10:56 PM
‎02-10-2003 10:56 PM

George I'd speak with Ansys about this.  I had
a similar situation.  They must provide you with a auth code for the
version you currently have.  They did not sell you a timed version. 
They sold you a copy of software.


--
Sean Dotson, PE

href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com
Check the Inventor
FAQ for most common questions

href="http://www.sdotson.com/faq.html">www.sdotson.com/faq.html
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One downside to Designspace is that you had
better be prepared to pay $1400 a year or so in maint.  Ansys has a trick
that even though you pay your initial 5 or 6k you can't reload the program
even on your own machine. 

 

I have a case where I work for a small company
and the version I use is sufficient so I dropped the maint.  I had a hard
drive crash and tried to reload, and guess what, no luck.  I paid for the
program but unless I catch up with all the previous maint. fees I'm out of
luck.  Now I'm in for almost as much as Cosmos would cost new. 

 

Just a word of warning

 

George Clark


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

MDT has a very crude FEA program in the Power
Pack.  For a bit more sophistication I'd suggest Design Space from
Ansys.  Simple to use and not too expensive.


--
Sean Dotson, PE

href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com
Check the
Inventor FAQ for most common questions

href="http://www.sdotson.com/faq.html">www.sdotson.com/faq.html
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
We
are looking for a low end FEA program for our IV assemblies. Is there one
available cheap? Cheap is relative but our products are simple cabinets.
It must function well but it does not have to be overly complicated. Our
one engineer is working remotely, I presume he would run the software or
our design drafters would with the engineer doing review.. Any
ideas?
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎02-11-2003 01:04 AM
‎02-11-2003 01:04 AM

Sean,

 

I went through my dealer who told me he spoke to
Ansys and they couldn't help.  I'll try the direct approach and let you
know how I make out.

 

George


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George I'd speak with Ansys about this.  I
had a similar situation.  They must provide you with a auth code for the
version you currently have.  They did not sell you a timed version. 
They sold you a copy of software.


--
Sean Dotson, PE

href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com
Check the Inventor
FAQ for most common questions

href="http://www.sdotson.com/faq.html">www.sdotson.com/faq.html
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

One downside to Designspace is that you had
better be prepared to pay $1400 a year or so in maint.  Ansys has a
trick that even though you pay your initial 5 or 6k you can't reload the
program even on your own machine. 

 

I have a case where I work for a small company
and the version I use is sufficient so I dropped the maint.  I had a
hard drive crash and tried to reload, and guess what, no luck.  I paid
for the program but unless I catch up with all the previous maint. fees I'm
out of luck.  Now I'm in for almost as much as Cosmos would cost
new. 

 

Just a word of warning

 

George Clark


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

MDT has a very crude FEA program in the Power
Pack.  For a bit more sophistication I'd suggest Design Space from
Ansys.  Simple to use and not too expensive.


--
Sean Dotson, PE

href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com
Check the
Inventor FAQ for most common questions

href="http://www.sdotson.com/faq.html">www.sdotson.com/faq.html
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
We
are looking for a low end FEA program for our IV assemblies. Is there
one available cheap? Cheap is relative but our products are simple
cabinets. It must function well but it does not have to be overly
complicated. Our one engineer is working remotely, I presume he would
run the software or our design drafters would with the engineer doing
review.. Any
ideas?
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Message 11 of 14
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎02-11-2003 01:04 AM
‎02-11-2003 01:04 AM

As a rule of thumb with stuff like that I go direct
to the manufacturer.


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Sean Dotson, PE

href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com
Check the Inventor
FAQ for most common questions

href="http://www.sdotson.com/faq.html">www.sdotson.com/faq.html
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Sean,

 

I went through my dealer who told me he spoke to
Ansys and they couldn't help.  I'll try the direct approach and let you
know how I make out.

 

George


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

George I'd speak with Ansys about this.  I
had a similar situation.  They must provide you with a auth code for
the version you currently have.  They did not sell you a timed
version.  They sold you a copy of software.


--
Sean Dotson, PE

href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com
Check the
Inventor FAQ for most common questions

href="http://www.sdotson.com/faq.html">www.sdotson.com/faq.html
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

One downside to Designspace is that you had
better be prepared to pay $1400 a year or so in maint.  Ansys has a
trick that even though you pay your initial 5 or 6k you can't reload the
program even on your own machine. 

 

I have a case where I work for a small
company and the version I use is sufficient so I dropped the maint. 
I had a hard drive crash and tried to reload, and guess what, no
luck.  I paid for the program but unless I catch up with all the
previous maint. fees I'm out of luck.  Now I'm in for almost as much
as Cosmos would cost new. 

 

Just a word of warning

 

George Clark


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

MDT has a very crude FEA program in the
Power Pack.  For a bit more sophistication I'd suggest Design Space
from Ansys.  Simple to use and not too expensive.


--
Sean Dotson, PE

href="http://www.sdotson.com">http://www.sdotson.com
Check the
Inventor FAQ for most common questions

href="http://www.sdotson.com/faq.html">www.sdotson.com/faq.html
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
We
are looking for a low end FEA program for our IV assemblies. Is there
one available cheap? Cheap is relative but our products are simple
cabinets. It must function well but it does not have to be overly
complicated. Our one engineer is working remotely, I presume he would
run the software or our design drafters would with the engineer doing
review.. Any
ideas?
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Message 12 of 14
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎02-11-2003 01:46 AM
‎02-11-2003 01:46 AM

What all is needed for the Algor product. core and translator. We are interested in load testing models and heat disapation within the cabinets.
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎02-11-2003 03:12 AM
‎02-11-2003 03:12 AM

In simple terms, you will need (1) The INCAD module for Inventor. It adds this nifty command into the
Inventor environment that, when selected, meshes your model and sends it to the FEA environment in
one 99% flawless operation. (2) The Steady-State (or Transient) Heat Transfer Module for your thermal
analysis and finally (3) the basic package. I'd be happy to send you some screen shots of the interface
if you would like. If so, contact me at mmiller@genlytethomas.com.

Thanks

Mike
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎02-12-2003 05:45 AM
‎02-12-2003 05:45 AM

I'm an Algor user too. I'm happy with it. If you contact them, they
can do a remote demo for you. You supply the CAD geometry and tell them
what you want analyzed. They will broadcast over the internet, and you
can watch them as they set up and run your model.

Brian

mmiller wrote:

> In simple terms, you will need (1) The INCAD module for Inventor. It
> adds this nifty command into the
> Inventor environment that, when selected, meshes your model and sends
> it to the FEA environment in
> one 99% flawless operation. (2) The Steady-State (or Transient) Heat
> Transfer Module for your thermal
> analysis and finally (3) the basic package. I'd be happy to send you
> some screen shots of the interface
> if you would like. If so, contact me at mmiller@genlytethomas.com.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
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