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Inventor vs UG

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Message 1 of 23
Anonymous
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Inventor vs UG

In what ways is IV better then UG for machine design? (Not a lot of surfacing
necessary)

--
Dave Jacquemotte
Automation Designer
www.autoconcorp.com
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Message 2 of 23
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I sincerely hope you aren't in a heated discussion about the merits
between the two.

You had better change the subject and offer to by lunch.

QBZ


"Dave Jacquemotte" wrote in message
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> In what ways is IV better then UG for machine design? (Not a lot of
surfacing
> necessary)
>
> --
> Dave Jacquemotte
> Automation Designer
> www.autoconcorp.com
>
>
>
>
Message 3 of 23
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Heh...no, no debates. Just info. I guess I should probably ask in a neutral
discussion group. However, I usually get a biased opinion (against IV) in those
groups. IV is just not well known enough yet.

--
Dave Jacquemotte
Automation Designer
www.autoconcorp.com



"Quinn Zander" wrote in message
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> I sincerely hope you aren't in a heated discussion about the merits
> between the two.
>
> You had better change the subject and offer to by lunch.
>
> QBZ
>
>
> "Dave Jacquemotte" wrote in message
> news:9861A72C30429F674880EFF5D7C24600@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > In what ways is IV better then UG for machine design? (Not a lot of
> surfacing
> > necessary)
> >
> > --
> > Dave Jacquemotte
> > Automation Designer
> > www.autoconcorp.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Message 4 of 23
rllthomas
in reply to: Anonymous

How many products can you list that moved from parasolids to acis?



How many products can you list that moved from acis to parasolids?
Message 5 of 23
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Dave,

There are several things IV can handle better than UG (my knowledge is
limited to UG18)

- easier for newbies
- lower price
- better Windows integration, printing/plotting ability
- IV has a complete standards parts package included
- IV has the worlds best 2D (ACAD) and MDT (with FEA, surfacing, countless
add-ons, and so on) included

There are several things, where both packages don't do so good (file
setup/management, for example).

Well, and then there are SEVERAL things UG can handle better than IV, but
this you didn't ask...

--
Regards,
---
Leo Laimer
Bad Ischl - Austria
Message 6 of 23
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

For the price, I would assume that. But I might be moving at a company that is
thinking of switching to UG from AutoCAD. I was looking for some reasons they
would want to go with IV instead.

--
Dave Jacquemotte
Automation Designer
www.autoconcorp.com



"Leo Laimer" wrote in message
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> Well, and then there are SEVERAL things UG can handle better than IV, but
> this you didn't ask...
>
> --
> Regards,
> ---
> Leo Laimer
> Bad Ischl - Austria
>
>
Message 7 of 23
rllthomas
in reply to: Anonymous

Then you might want to focus on the relationship UG has with EDS, and EDS's financial situation. Rumor has it some non-essential portions of EDS (a services company) are up for sale and MS and HP are interested buyers. I'm a bit skeptical since this is a rather old rumor, but in any event both HP and MS don't want CAD so who really knows where any of this would lead.
Message 8 of 23
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Well, when coming from ACAD, the situation is different.
There are lots of reasons to go the AIS route then, beginning with the fact
that in the AIS package the most recent release of ACAD is included to
maintain all the legacy data and for doing some layouts.
When coming from ACAD it's definitely easier for the users to go the IV road
than the UG one (more like Unix). And, in the first months/years they will
not expect, and not use, all the high-end features UG has to offer. Until
they need them and start longing for them, IV will have them too
(hopefully!)

Maybe there is only one killer argument against IV remaining then: When you
will be doing very large assemblies, your' lost in IV, but it's fun in UG.

--
Regards,
---
Leo Laimer
Bad Ischl - Austria
Message 9 of 23
HomeMadeSin
in reply to: Anonymous

I'm staying away from this topic, but I'd be interested to know where neutral discussion groups are......please let me know - tzellers@mdminc.com
Message 10 of 23
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

This topic shouldn't even come up Inventor doesn't
even compare well to little brother solid edge!!!!


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I'm
staying away from this topic, but I'd be interested to know where neutral
discussion groups are......please let me know -
tzellers@mdminc.com
Message 11 of 23
engeldf
in reply to: Anonymous

That is a good question, I wonder how UG and Inventor compare after UG has merged with IDEAS to make UG-NX. I'm sure Inventor has a better price.
Message 12 of 23
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

For machine design, I would bet on ease-of-use and
a shorter learning curve.

 

Rui


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"Dave Jacquemotte" <davej atty autoconcorp dotty com> wrote in
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In
what ways is IV better then UG for machine design? (Not a lot of
surfacing
necessary)

--
Dave Jacquemotte
Automation
Designer

href="http://www.autoconcorp.com">www.autoconcorp.com




Message 13 of 23
HomeMadeSin
in reply to: Anonymous

This topic is like trying to compare a Toyota RAV4 to a Hummer H1. Since 90% of the effort is simple extrusions, revolutions, etc, IV kicks (Edited by moderator). However, for those of us with more advanced requirements, where stuck spinning our wheels. Eventually IV will probably get to the capability of more advanced feature generation, but when is the magic question.
Message 14 of 23
xavierl
in reply to: Anonymous

re: whe are stuck spinning our wheels:
in this case I prefer the toyota rav, you would need about 20 guys to push the hummer if it got stuck in the sand.

same with software. in a market where small firms need to get short term staff, a short learning curve is essential(provided IV can satisfy all your requirements) and even if 10% of your work needs software with more capability then you run one of them and the rest IV.
regards
frans x liebenberg
Message 15 of 23
rllthomas
in reply to: Anonymous

It really comes to a case by case basis. The last thing a company should do it write down a list of features they need and check them of for each program they evaluate. What they need to do is come up with a worflow the sw must provide and have it demonstrated. That is how you learn that while the SW may have a weld feature it won't do your plug welds or while assembly features exist you can't model the addition of material.



Sometimes a LandRover might be in order. If we didn't do a lot of repetetive circuits and silk screening IV would be a pretty good choice for us. A few too many long standing bugs and some serious kernal problems wrt molded parts but we can get by with that. As it is, I know for a fact that other products on the market do a better job than IV for our products. I would go pound the person that chose IV but that would be me.
Message 16 of 23
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Please tell me that this is true, and not a joke or
wish. I'm fighting two other dept's on cad, three dept's three solid modelers
five versions of acad.  Looks like sw is loosening battle need better
reason to kill off pro-e. This might help a lot, if true where can I find info
to back up? I Keep getting told that pro-e and sw are the industry leaders need
info to prove pro-e is a dead dinosaur waiting for nerve ending to send
message to brain.

       
               
               
               
               
    msk

 
Message 17 of 23
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Ok so I saw pro-e, by wishful thinking instead of
ideas. But I thought ideas was bought back in mid-late 90's say
97-98.

       
               
               
               
               
msk
Message 18 of 23
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Just 2 comments:

1. Pro/E is by no
means dieing (don't believe all that Solidworks vendors tell you)

2. IDEAS was bought by EDS (owners of UG) and has
the last version set at V10.

 

Rui

 


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Ok so I saw pro-e, by wishful thinking instead of
ideas. But I thought ideas was bought back in mid-late 90's say
97-98.

       
               
               
               
               
msk
Message 19 of 23
engeldf
in reply to: Anonymous

Do a search on Unigraphis NX. It is UG/IDEAS. If Ideas isn't already dead it will be when UG fully absorbs it. I've also talked to the reseller confirming this. However, unless you are designing monster complex stuff and have lots of $$, I think Inventor will serve you fine in comparison to UG. Besides EDS has Solid Edge. Solidworks would lead everyone to believe that Inventor is a kid’s toy and that ProE is a stone and chisel, however neither is true.
Message 20 of 23
jurgen_eco
in reply to: Anonymous

Hello

Strange feelings about this topic, started a week or 2 a topic with title "Inventor vs Wildfire" but this was removed after about 6 hours, ok I accepted it after a while.

Explain me in which way this topic is different from mine which was deleted?

Anne Brown "Inventor vs Wildfire - messages removed" 9/22/03 9:26am!from=search

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