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Dennis_Jeffrey
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Re: Inventor CRASH when CHECKIN to Vault and create .DWF file

01-21-2011 05:07 AM in reply to: lhoang

Please list your full system specs as indicated here: http://teknigroup.com/support/Inventor/Howto.html

 

That being stated, I only have one system on Vista, and I have no CAD product on it. I waited til Win 7.

 

Generally ( and since Mechanical Desktop) It is good general practice to NOT put everything in one drawing file.

 

1. Parts should be detailed in a one part IDW.

2. Subassemblies should be detailed in a one assy IDW.

3. Top level assemblies shoult be detailed in a one assy IDW.

 

This workflow might just restore stability and sanity in designs.

 

It's time to drop the old drawing board and AutoCAD workflows..... in any 3D modeler, not just Inventor. This is a new decade for change. Change is painful,no one likes to do it, but necessary for survival as a company..... any company.

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dominiekvanwest
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Re: Inventor CRASH when CHECKIN to Vault and create .DWF file

01-21-2011 05:30 AM in reply to: Dennis_Jeffrey

I have:

Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5482 @ 3.20GHz

32,0 GB

Windows Vista Business (64-bit) Service Pack 2

Inventor 2010

NVIDIA Quadro FX 1700

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lhoang
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Re: Inventor CRASH when CHECKIN to Vault and create .DWF file

01-21-2011 05:54 AM in reply to: Dennis_Jeffrey

specs have already been stated in previous post, but probably not the way your howto document says.

 

I would call this a work around for something I would expect Inventor to be able to handle.  What happened between 2009 and 2011 that all of a sudden a 5MB file is too large to check in?  Agreed, 70-100 prints is a lot in one file.  It wasn't an issue one version ago...and even less of an issue 2 versions ago for us.  Furthermore, what I'm hearing you tell me is to basically reduce my file sizes by Not putting everything in one file. At what point do all the part files become to large and then I have to break that down even further?

 

Don't really need schooling on change here.  I'm all for change, but it should be change for the better, not to accomodate for poor performance.

 

Well, my Inventor just crashed while adding dimensions to an .idw.  I should have restarted before my memory used meter reached the upper half of "yellow".  Or maybe I should quite putting so many dimensions on my print.

 

 

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Dennis_Jeffrey
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Re: Inventor CRASH when CHECKIN to Vault and create .DWF file

01-21-2011 05:59 AM in reply to: lhoang

I*'ll bet dinner that it's your FX1700 card.   It has 512 MB Ram, right?

 

Also what Nvidia driver version are you using?

 

Hopefully someone else can chime in here. It's back to work for me.

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KEverts
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Message 15 of 34 (974 Views)

Re: Inventor CRASH when CHECKIN to Vault and create .DWF file

01-21-2011 06:30 AM in reply to: Dennis_Jeffrey

I had the same issue as stated but I tend to disagree with many of the things being said here.

 

1) I don't think it's a memory problem nore do I think it's a file size issue. When I was having this problem I would see it hang on a simple drawing file that had just one part file with very little detail. Then immediately see a flawless check-in on a 43 page drawing. It was just temperamental. Let's quit picking on memory. I think many folks buy high amounts of memory when they don't require it. Keep in mind that anytime Inventor or AutoCAD hangs it's going to continue to eat up memory until it throws a low memory or you kill it. It's in it's nature I guess. It doesn't necessarily mean you need more memory.

 

2) Yes its a new age. In this age we should be able to handle large file sizes. I am currently checking drawing files in and out on a daily basis that are up in the range of 100 sheets and more with no problems. I've seen some say to keep it under 10 sheets and this just sounds crazy to me. I personally don't want to split my drawing files up to accommodate the software I want my software to accommodate me and allow me to work as efficient as possible.

 

I don't know if your on subscription or not but if you are please take the time to go to your subscription site and fill out a request. I personally have had very good luck with the support team. They were very patient with me on this issue and didn't give up until the issue was resolved. Just be sure to listen and give them whatever they want. With me it was my local profile. I was reluctant when they said I needed to delete my local profile and rebuild it. I did not think it was the problem and kept putting them off. That's exactly what it was and now I have no issues (I really shouldn't say none... I have had the check-in freeze up once since the fix.).

 

Also keep in mind that Vault is very picky. I learned the hard way that there is right and wrongs ways to setup your projects, workspace, vault, etc.  Makes a huge difference on speed. I hate following tutorials on things like this but once I broke down followed a walkthrough off of the Autodesk University site my Vault speeds (in all areas) went from a crawl to a sprint.

 

Nough rambling and I hope you get her figured out. I know how frustrating this can all be. I just think we look at hardware a little to quick sometimes. I also run Inventor on my laptop and its a 2gig with an old FX1400 video card. Was built for XP and I'm running Win7 on it with Inventor 2011 and she runs fine. A little slow at times but she never hangs. I just keep the garbage off of her.

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dominiekvanwest
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Re: Inventor CRASH when CHECKIN to Vault and create .DWF file

01-24-2011 02:32 AM in reply to: KEverts

Thank you for your reply.

 

And yes, I have subscription, so I send the question to them. I hope they can help me.

In the meantime I can try your option. But what do you mean with deleting my local profile and rebuilding it? (so: how to do it)

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Dominiek

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edonline69
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Re: Inventor CRASH when CHECKIN to Vault and create .DWF file

03-23-2011 12:50 PM in reply to: dominiekvanwest

Any news on this issue. I have the same problem on Vista off and on.

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dominiekvanwest
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Re: Inventor CRASH when CHECKIN to Vault and create .DWF file

03-24-2011 02:42 AM in reply to: edonline69

I have created a new Windows user profile and now it works.

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KEverts
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Re: Inventor CRASH when CHECKIN to Vault and create .DWF file

03-24-2011 02:46 AM in reply to: dominiekvanwest

Glad to here it worked. I have since had to re-create my user account again. It seams that over-time the issue may come back. I don't know what it is but something is obviously happening to the account that the DWF creation don't like. I have noticed that it effects the export to PDF as well. I can go to AutoCAD and it exports fine.

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slalwani
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Re: Inventor CRASH when CHECKIN to Vault and create .DWF file

03-25-2011 02:16 PM in reply to: lhoang

I have a similar issue as well.

From my stand point, the problem does not lies in multiple pages but actual complexity of the model.

We make custom trucks for oil rig services and our trucks includes cranes, hydraulic equipments, and lots of structural stuff.

I just made a single sheet layout with the full truck and it wont check in with visualization options. Just crashes.

Hope that helps in debugging.

Thanks,

 

Summit L.

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