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BarryZA
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Message 11 of 26 (784 Views)

Re: Inventor 2014 Linux?

11-28-2013 10:30 AM in reply to: LT.Rusty

I have used a new HP printer on Linux, and a Samsung laser printer, and about a 15 yr old Canon. I downloaded a far superior driver for the Samsung (which came with a native Unix driver disk anyway), but CUPS supports just about everything.

 

My Nvidia GT card even has an ORIGINAL Linux driver.

 

There is nothing superior about original drivers, they were probably created by the biggest slacker in the factory who wasn't good enough for anything else.

 

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Re: Inventor 2014 Linux?

11-28-2013 11:06 AM in reply to: BarryZA
It could be a great O/S, but it's the software that everyone uses and most really don't care about the O/S. The problem is it's a catch22 problem, the O/S doesn't reside on many desktops, so why would software developers write software for a currently very small market. Linux may be a great O/S that is used on super computers in universities when the programs/software they are using is custom programs written to do very specific applications. It's not "off the self" software that they are using. Since this is business, software will be written for markets that will generate profits for the companies. There is no software because the Linux O/S isn't on a on a number desktops. It's not on a number of desktops because there is not an abundance of software. So until you can figure out how to solve the riddle, you will be stuck with Microsoft's Windows and Mac's OS.
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Re: Inventor 2014 Linux?

11-28-2013 01:05 PM in reply to: blair

There used to be a linux/unix port of Autocad back in the early 90's and previously (I am not sure of the vintage, but it was available with release 9 if I recall correctly). Somewhere along the line, Autodesk got really chummy with Microsoft and moved all of their software onto Windows based OS's.

 

I would like to see open office support before I see a linux port.

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Re: Inventor 2014 Linux?

11-28-2013 01:39 PM in reply to: steve_mckenna
Autodesk hedging there bet on which O/S would prevail in the market place and desktops. I have a new copy of IBC OS-2 Warp I can sell you as well, still in the factory sealed clear wrap.
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Re: Inventor 2014 Linux?

12-02-2013 08:01 AM in reply to: blair

I am underwhealmed by the logic. "I might not get telephone support for a printer that does not support linux - therefore Autodesk should not support linux."

 

I am equally unimpressed by the logic "Linux from 10 years ago was for people who know what they're doing." The only person I know compiling code is an engineer who does it as an intellectual excercise. The rest of us have lives and jobs. A lot has changed in the last decade, and new distributions are easier to get up and running than expensive alternatives. The newest distributions even bypass the 'shelf' entirely. They are free to download, easy to install, provide native support for most hardware and can be easily adapted to suit the needs of the user.

 

Software corperations are typically against open source software, and in some cases, rightfully afraid that open source offerings might eventually interfere with their own profits... or the profits of their cohorts. You can't exactly blame Microsoft, considering how much they make selling copies of MS Office every year. Apple certainly doesn't want people to realize that their OS is based off the same unix source code as most Linux distributions. (For that matter, Apple seems to avoid even acnowledging the existance of linux.) Then again, someone standing in line for the newest I-pad probably doesn't care.

 

The simple fact is that expensive operating systems and office software can be replaced (and often outperformed) by free open source software, but lets face it, Spreadsheets and Word Processing aren't exactly complex processes. On the other hand, professional packages for more complex tasks (like drafting)

have little or no competetion from open source offerings. What is available is so crude by comparison that it can't be used to efficiently generate profit. Like the guy standing in line for an I-pad, professionals just want something that works.

 

The choices for open source drafting are dismal. The design, engineering and programming that go into industrial and professional software packages are what set them apart, and the efficiency of being handed a finished package that is ready go to work are what businesses are happy to pay for. What they save on copies of MS Office and Windows 8 could be spent on a more complete Autodesk suite or extra seats of Inventor.

 

 

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Re: Inventor 2014 Linux?

12-02-2013 09:07 AM in reply to: T8R

T8R wrote:

I am underwhealmed by the logic. "I might not get telephone support for a printer that does not support linux - therefore Autodesk should not support linux."

 

 



You're twisting this a little bit. 

 

The logic runs more along the lines of "I won't get the same support* for Linux that I do for Windows, so I'm not going to adopt Linux for my company."  Autodesk isn't going to plow development time and resources into a non-existant market, nor should they.  It's pretty much the same reason that Ford isn't making a Mustang with oxygen-independent drive and a sealed pressurized cabin, on the off chance that they might have some customers on the moon for the 2015 model year.  It's the same reason that my company isn't going to spend a quarter million dollars to design and build an injection mold for a one-off part.

 

Once the market exists, they'll expand into it ... but there has to be something there to justify the expenditure of resources.

 

 

 

*Also, you're twisting things about the level of support.  For me and my company, it ain't phone support.  I can have Dell / HP / Gateway / whoever actually on site within an hour of placing the call.


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Message 17 of 26 (703 Views)

Re: Inventor 2014 Linux?

12-02-2013 09:22 AM in reply to: LT.Rusty

Frankly, I'd settle for parallel processing. All these CAD programs are kludges of ancient code grafted together. They all use only one CPU except for a few 'modern' appendages. The day they can no longer sew new bits to the old corpse and re-write the programs from the top: then you'll get your Linux version. I'd run Linux, too; but the software isn't there for business...

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Re: Inventor 2014 Linux?

12-02-2013 09:54 AM in reply to: LT.Rusty

Lets not forget the deliverables either.  If the client is still running Inventor and contractually obligated the engineering company to provide Inventor files, it doesn't matter how cool, fast, or open-source the design software is if you can't deliver them.

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Re: Inventor 2014 Linux?

12-02-2013 10:03 AM in reply to: dgorsman

Hopefully Steam will move things along.

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Re: Inventor 2014 Linux?

12-02-2013 10:07 AM in reply to: BarryZA

BarryZA wrote:

Hopefully Steam will move things along.



 

Steam has been on Mac for a few years now.

 

Have you seen businesses flocking to Mac as a result of having a few games available?

 


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