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Inventor 2013 Wish List?

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09-02-2011 07:30 PM

:mansad:

 

I would like to be able to move parts/assemblies around in Inventor very quickly but very accurately.

Like you can move something in AutoCAD.

 

When you go into the move command it would be nice to be able to enter exact x,y or z values for movement.

Maybe it could be added to the "Grip Snap" function where you select an edge on the part or something, or the x,y,z axis and move an inputed distance.

 

I think it would be beneficial to be able to quickly and accurately move parts around before starting to apply assembly constraints?

 

I know you can do quite a bit with "Grip Snap" and from iproperties "Current Offset From..." but I'm not sure if it's simple and quick?

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Re: Inventor 2013 Wish List?

09-03-2011 01:29 AM in reply to: FProcp

Between_points.jpg

 

It would be nice to be able to extrude between two points just like you can extrude between two planes.

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Re: Inventor 2013 Wish List?

09-03-2011 08:25 AM in reply to: FProcp

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=1109794

 

http://forums.augi.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1203

 

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Re: Inventor 2013 Wish List?

09-05-2011 07:24 AM in reply to: JDMather

Thank-you for the hyperlinks.

 

I realise "Grip Snap" can move objects along selected edges by an inputed amount so maybe I should with-draw the first request to move objects quickly, accurately and easily. :smileysurprised:

 

But it would be nice to have a triad like the one in 3D sketching for moving objects.

 

Triad.jpg

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Re: Inventor 2013 Wish List?

09-07-2011 07:36 AM in reply to: FProcp

Not sure why this would be needed with Inventor.  There are more important needs out there I think.

 

John Laidler

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Re: Inventor 2013 Wish List?

09-07-2011 07:50 AM in reply to: jclaidler

If you're talking about the move command, I'm just looking for an easier/quicker way to place/locate parts in an assembly before having to use assembly constraints. Assembly constraining is my least favourite activity in Inventor. Sometimes I have a whole lot of assembly constraints in a complex assembly and I want to move something and working out which assembly constraint affects which is so annoying :smileymad: Sometimes I just want to delete them all and start all over again. Being able to easily move parts quickly and accurately would be very nice.

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Re: Inventor 2013 Wish List?

09-07-2011 07:54 AM in reply to: FProcp

If you want to just move the part, just click and drag it.

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Re: Inventor 2013 Wish List?

09-07-2011 03:13 PM in reply to: jclaidler
ACCURATELY? I wonder if it would be useful if you could use the precise move/rotate triad and it had a command in it where you could pick "From Reference Point" and then it would give you the difference in x, y, & z from a point on another object which you could then adjust the value of? This may be useful for Grounded Points too where you could move one grounded point relative to another point or object accurately?
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Re: Inventor 2013 Wish List?

09-07-2011 04:06 PM in reply to: FProcp

I'm kinda lost as to what you might be attempting to do here.

Am I right in thinking you want to be able to insert a part into an assembly and then be able to move it into place (or close to it) without having to use constraints like Mate, Insert, etc?

 

Something more accurate than "eyeballing" it.

I assume you want to do this as a sort of trial and error process to see how well things will fit together?

 

The thing that worries me is the statement above about hating the process of assembly constraints. This throws up a huge red flag for me. Assembly constraints should be a breeze for the most part if the assembly was put together using best practices. The most common mistake I see with assembly constraints are users constraining to part edges or faces, etc. and then have an edit happen to a part and the assembly "blows up".

 

The most common of these I've seen are users constraining bolt hole patterns to the edge of a cylindrical part and then fillet or chamfer that same edge which then blows the bolt hole pattern to outer space. Common sense tells you that edge is no now longer there, it's been replaced by the fillet or chamfer. Why so many people don't grasp that puzzles me.

 

So I have to ask, is the assembly built with "best practices"....constraining parts/subassemblies to the files planes and axis as opposed to those of other parts/subassemblies or edges/surfaces of the parts. etc?

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Re: Inventor 2013 Wish List?

09-07-2011 09:16 PM in reply to: Hell-If-I-Know

I must say I'm with FProcp on this one.

Constraints are all very well up to a certain point, after that they can get in the way and become time consuming to apply, and ofcourse the problems caused by sick constraints, and the increasing slowness of every operation because all these contraints need to be evaluated.

I would love it if in the assembly environment I had a UCS that I could manipulate just like you can in AutoCAD, to accurately move/copy/rotate parts & subassemblies, and be able to use snaps to put things in place. It'd be nice to have the same capability in the sketch environment by the way, and be able to do without parameters and constraints if I choose to.

 

Solid Edge with their synchronous technology has interesting tools that allow for accurate manipulation of components within an assembly without the need for constraints.

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