Interested in selling my computer with Inventor

[cfritsche]

How does it work if I want to sell my computer that has Inventor on it. Am I allowed to sell my software.
Normally I would ask about $1000 for my PC, but having the Inventor 9 package I figured I would have to get about $3500-$4000, it also has the Adobe CS package.
I am not sure how all that works..???
Will I get in trouble if I sell the computer?
The reason for all this is I am on a Mac now and I work full-time for a company that has Inventor, so there is really no need in me owning m own copy, I don't plan on buying another PC

[Anonymous]

In short: it's illegal, you are not allowed to sell the software.

But it's legal for you to have Inventor installed at your home PC (as long
as it's not used for commercial purposes, and it may only be used after
working hours).

Cheers,

--
T. Ham
Mechanical Engineer
CDS Engineering BV

Dual Pentium XEON 2.2 Ghz
2 GB SDRAM
NVIDIA QUADRO4 700 XGL (Driver = 77.18)
18 GB SEAGATE SCSI Hard Disc
3Com Gigabit NIC

Windows 2000 Professional SP4
Autodesk Inventor Series 9 SP3
Autodesk Inventor Series 10 SP1
--

wrote in message news:4898721@discussion.autodesk.com...
How does it work if I want to sell my computer that has Inventor on it. Am I
allowed to sell my software.
Normally I would ask about $1000 for my PC, but having the Inventor 9
package I figured I would have to get about $3500-$4000, it also has the
Adobe CS package.
I am not sure how all that works..???
Will I get in trouble if I sell the computer?
The reason for all this is I am on a Mac now and I work full-time for a
company that has Inventor, so there is really no need in me owning m own
copy, I don't plan on buying another PC

[cfritsche]

I think you misunderstood me.
I have my own copy of Inventor, that I bought for the (Outragous) price of $5600.
I then started working for a company that requires I drive to there property each day to work, THUS, rendering the fact that I have my own copy that I could use from home, useless; I mean there is no sense in having to full licenses.
So I am not trying to sell my companies software, but I no longer need my "at home" PC which has a full, but seperate, copy of IV9, so what am I suppose to do with the software now... any suggestions, I don't need it anymore

[Anonymous]

Hi Teun,

do I understand correctly:
I paid for 1 seat at work, I am allowed to have one copy running @home? (as
long
as it's not used for commercial purposes, and it may only be used after
working hours).

is that right?

Fabien.

"Teun Ham (IV9 SP3 / IV10 SP1)"
a écrit dans le message de news:4898722@discussion.autodesk.com...
In short: it's illegal, you are not allowed to sell the software.

But it's legal for you to have Inventor installed at your home PC (as long
as it's not used for commercial purposes, and it may only be used after
working hours).

Cheers,

--
T. Ham
Mechanical Engineer
CDS Engineering BV

Dual Pentium XEON 2.2 Ghz
2 GB SDRAM
NVIDIA QUADRO4 700 XGL (Driver = 77.18)
18 GB SEAGATE SCSI Hard Disc
3Com Gigabit NIC

Windows 2000 Professional SP4
Autodesk Inventor Series 9 SP3
Autodesk Inventor Series 10 SP1
--

wrote in message news:4898721@discussion.autodesk.com...
How does it work if I want to sell my computer that has Inventor on it. Am I
allowed to sell my software.
Normally I would ask about $1000 for my PC, but having the Inventor 9
package I figured I would have to get about $3500-$4000, it also has the
Adobe CS package.
I am not sure how all that works..???
Will I get in trouble if I sell the computer?
The reason for all this is I am on a Mac now and I work full-time for a
company that has Inventor, so there is really no need in me owning m own
copy, I don't plan on buying another PC

[cfritsche]

Does Autodesk not have some sort of buy back option for when users are done with software?

[Anonymous]

I do not completely remember the past discussions here (you should do a
search), but it seems like there were certain circumstances where you could
sell your copy (with Autodesk's pre-approval), but I think it boiled down
to you had to be liquidating a failed company or something like that.
Hopefully you can find this info by searching this newsgroup (try both the
newsreader and web based interfaces for your search.

Bob S.

wrote in message news:4898750@discussion.autodesk.com...
Does Autodesk not have some sort of buy back option for when users are done with software?

[hallstevenson]

Uninstall Inventor and Adobe CS from the PC and sell it for "about $1000". That's your only legal option. You don't own Inventor and likely not CS. You only paid for the right to USE it.

There's been threads in the past about transferring the license to someone else but I don't recall what the official answer on that was.

Also, you might severely limit your market by including that software and charging additionally for it...

[Anonymous]

I'm reposting 2 relevant responses to an old thread from 2/04 titled
"Transfer of License" for you to check out:

From Sean Dotson:

Autodesk only allows a transfer of license under the following conditions
1.) Legal changes of company ownership and structure, including mergers,
consolidations, and acquisitions that represent a sale of substantially all
assets of a business concern;
2.) Transfers of product within companies and Government agencies;
3.) Legal changes of name or address;
4.) Grants to educational institutions; or
5.) Donations to charity (for use by the charitable organization, not for
resale).

From MikeC:

You should go over to the CADMANAGER discussion group and read the "Selling
Licenses If Company Reorganizes" thread. There's a guy called "Dave" that's
done a ton of research on this subject.



"Bob S." wrote in message news:4898771@discussion.autodesk.com...
I do not completely remember the past discussions here (you should do a
search), but it seems like there were certain circumstances where you could
sell your copy (with Autodesk's pre-approval), but I think it boiled down
to you had to be liquidating a failed company or something like that.
Hopefully you can find this info by searching this newsgroup (try both the
newsreader and web based interfaces for your search.

Bob S.

wrote in message news:4898750@discussion.autodesk.com...
Does Autodesk not have some sort of buy back option for when users are done with software?

[Greg Dineen]

And you can't sell the right to use it? I would have thought there would be a way to transfer licenses as stated. Perhaps I don't see the reason this isn't allowed. Just my $.02

[Anonymous]

You can only sell the software if your are selling your company and there
are so many hoops to jump through it would only be worth it if the company
owned many seats.

You do not own the software, you just lease it!
same as your home....try not paying property taxes and see who really own
your land!


wrote in message news:4899019@discussion.autodesk.com...
And you can't sell the right to use it? I would have thought there would be
a way to transfer licenses as stated. Perhaps I don't see the reason this
isn't allowed. Just my $.02

[xavierl]

the reason you cant transfer or sell the lic is bacause it says so in the lic conditions. you agree to them when you install the software.

Like previously said, you may be able to beg autodesk to allow you to do this but there are no guarantees.

another sort of similar case is oem versions of windows or office. you pay half price over here but it is locked to that pc and may not be installed on another one.

its de fineprint...
regards
Frans X Liebenberg
cape town

[Anonymous]

You might be better off donating your seat of inventor and selling the pc,
there might be fewer hurdles to jump

wrote in message news:4899041@discussion.autodesk.com...
the reason you cant transfer or sell the lic is bacause it says so in the
lic conditions. you agree to them when you install the software.

Like previously said, you may be able to beg autodesk to allow you to do
this but there are no guarantees.

another sort of similar case is oem versions of windows or office. you pay
half price over here but it is locked to that pc and may not be installed on
another one.

its de fineprint...
regards
Frans X Liebenberg
cape town

[Josh_Petitt]

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This is a pretty easy answer, just read the fine print. Legally, you can't give Inventor to anyone else (without Autodesk's consent), period. You can't "donate" it either. At least they are nice enough to allow multiple installations for the same user. Micro$oft office is officially licensed to the processor of the computer on which it is installed (not the user), meaning it can only legally be installed on one machine.

[Anonymous]

You can install IV on a second computer, but both may not be used at the
same time... as far as I'm aware theres no restriction on how you use that.

Derek

"Fabien" wrote in message
news:4898760@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi Teun,

do I understand correctly:
I paid for 1 seat at work, I am allowed to have one copy running @home? (as
long
as it's not used for commercial purposes, and it may only be used after
working hours).

is that right?

Fabien.

"Teun Ham (IV9 SP3 / IV10 SP1)"
a écrit dans le message de news:4898722@discussion.autodesk.com...
In short: it's illegal, you are not allowed to sell the software.

But it's legal for you to have Inventor installed at your home PC (as long
as it's not used for commercial purposes, and it may only be used after
working hours).

Cheers,

--
T. Ham
Mechanical Engineer
CDS Engineering BV

Dual Pentium XEON 2.2 Ghz
2 GB SDRAM
NVIDIA QUADRO4 700 XGL (Driver = 77.18)
18 GB SEAGATE SCSI Hard Disc
3Com Gigabit NIC

Windows 2000 Professional SP4
Autodesk Inventor Series 9 SP3
Autodesk Inventor Series 10 SP1
--

wrote in message news:4898721@discussion.autodesk.com...
How does it work if I want to sell my computer that has Inventor on it. Am I
allowed to sell my software.
Normally I would ask about $1000 for my PC, but having the Inventor 9
package I figured I would have to get about $3500-$4000, it also has the
Adobe CS package.
I am not sure how all that works..???
Will I get in trouble if I sell the computer?
The reason for all this is I am on a Mac now and I work full-time for a
company that has Inventor, so there is really no need in me owning m own
copy, I don't plan on buying another PC