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michael.marx
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iMap for Inventor

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06-18-2012 05:55 AM

Hi Adesk,

 

a few years ago (2008) there was a labs preview technology named iMap for Inventor.

Maybe someone could remember. I think this was the great tool. But why this tool was never released? If this tool is extended to part feature browser to know which sketch is used by which feature, and wich projected geometry is from which edge, or which adaptive thing is from which part adaptive? e.g  Reference 1 in Browser like now, could not help anyone.

please bring back the iMap feature for assembly, part and drawing!!

 

regrads Michael

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madajma
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Message 2 of 7 (269 Views)

Re: iMap for Inventor

11-12-2012 02:28 AM in reply to: michael.marx

I agree, iMap was great and I wish it was released because it would be very helpfull to me now.

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Mark_Wigan
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Re: iMap for Inventor

11-12-2012 04:43 AM in reply to: michael.marx

Very useful.

 

very good question.

 

 

maybe for many of us it would be better time spent rolling this out than all the shiny materials and colours and ribbon buttons that we have forced upon us.

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networks-not-trees
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Re: iMap for Inventor

08-12-2014 02:08 AM in reply to: michael.marx

This is so right.

Too much of our valuable design time goes to blindfolded data search.

 

CAD/PLM developers should understand that the designs that we create are not only 3d component assemblies. They are in fact large collections of interconnected data items. With - like it or not - very complex structures of dependency.

In order to let these dependencies become interesting again for designers, CAD software should focus on managing (i.e. visualising) this data structure.

The only way to limit cad complexity to a useful extent and have it work for you, is when you can SEE the complex data structure while you are making it.

 

Eventually people will see that CAD assemblies are no longer to be represented as mere tree structures, as they are networked structures.

Visualising not only 3d-models, but also data structure, would also help managers make better decisions CAD policies, even when they have no CAD experience.

I would argue that without something like Imap, soon we will all be stuck. The amount of money that is currently wasted, is just hallucinating.

 

Also I think that allowing the user to have access to the real data structure of his or her work necessitates an open source approach to CAD, one way or another. You cannot open data and keep it closed simultaneously. Business models will just have to cope with that.

 

For the record: I have been made to switch from Inventor to Creo, only to find that in such a so-called 'high end' application these data structure issues become even more painful. If anyone is familiar with the Reference Viewer in Creo 2.0, they will know what I mean. It seems easier to map the whole data history of Facebook, than to find one faulty link in your own assembly ;-)

I think if CAD vendors don't come up with something, maybe user groups will. Why not have both of them team up on this one?

 

Sorry to have picked up this thread so late, but I gathered it is jus too important an issue to drop.

Regards,

Tom De Prins

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johnsonshiue
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Re: iMap for Inventor

08-12-2014 09:20 AM in reply to: michael.marx

Hi! Currently we are doing some investigation of this tool to see how it will work with Inventor. Aside from the existing functionality provided by the original iMap on the Lab, do you have any suggestion on new capability? Or you are pretty much happy with what iMap offered?

Thanks!

 



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Principal SQA Engineer, Inventor
Mechanical Design
Autodesk, Inc.

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swalton
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Message 6 of 7 (75 Views)

Re: iMap for Inventor

08-12-2014 09:50 AM in reply to: johnsonshiue

I never got to test the imap tool because it was not released for XP64. At the time, my idws did not fit in 3 GB of RAM so I could not use XP32.

 

I would like to see a tool that shows me the source of any projected geometry/copied workfeature/derived geometry and lets me edit the link.

 

For example, I have a sketch with projected edges.  I want to see which features/sketches control those projected edges.  Later on, I change the source feature.  Now the projected edge/endpoints get sick (pink).  I want an option to edit the projected geometry and attach it to a new edge/point. Inventor should then update the sketch using the new source edge.

 

If I had this option, I would not have to delete the sick edge, break any sketch endpoint constraints to the sick endpoints, move the lines/arcs away from the sick endpoints, delete the sick endpoints, re-project the new edge and then re-constrain any sketch geometry back to the projected geometry.

 

I would also like to see the ability to find all assembly constraints/joints attached to a particular face/feature of part A and change them to apply to a particular face/feature of part B. That way, I don't have to edit 27 individual constraints to replace part A with part B in an assembly.

 

The new tool should also show/edit any shared parameters.

 

Finally, I would like to see both parents that push info into my part/assembly and children that consume it.  The latter option may require Vault to track all the dependencies.

 

 

 




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michael.marx
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Message 7 of 7 (32 Views)

Re: iMap for Inventor

08-17-2014 10:50 PM in reply to: johnsonshiue

read my first post for about new capability

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