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kwilsonamerex
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Re: IDW not showing correct color styles

10-08-2012 08:56 AM in reply to: kwilsonamerex

So any ADSK solution (hotfix) to this? It is beginning to become a sore spot within our engineering groups. We are on Inventor 'Update 2' and still having this issue.

 

Please see screenshot below for further explanation...

 

As you can see on my top level view that the bracket assembly does not show the correct color style and is reverting to a raw material it seems. However if I open the same exact bracket assembly model from within my top level assembly and place that bracket assembly as a new view the color style reflects as it should. In this case a red painted bracket assembly.

 

This was an issue in previous versions of Inventor sometimes. The 'trick' used to be to toggle the Representation from Default to Master and back to Default to 'fix' the issue. This worked 99% of the time. However since 2013 Inventor and the new styles/material library this seems to no longer work. 

 

idw issue.jpg

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Kenny

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karthur1
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Message 12 of 27 (563 Views)

Re: IDW not showing correct color styles

10-08-2012 09:26 AM in reply to: kwilsonamerex

Could you share an example of what you are seeing (iam, ipt and idws)?

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kwilsonamerex
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Message 13 of 27 (559 Views)

Re: IDW not showing correct color styles

10-08-2012 09:50 AM in reply to: karthur1

karthur1,

 

I can't share these files unless it's someone within ADSK (for security reasons). I also can't replicate this issue (thankfully) if I create all new components and sub asy files with 2013 Inventor. It seems this issue randomly arises from files created in previous versions of Inventor, this includes the components of assemblies. My workaround or 'fix' that I posted on page 1 of this thread no longer seems to trick the system (at that time I think I was on 2013 Inventor Update 1).

 

FWIW, when we went to 2013 Inventor, I did not do the migration of old design data and styles/mtl to the new 2013 library. I ditched the old completely due to the issues many were having with trying to migrate their old design data (styles/mtl) library. We use a single project file for everything and it points to only the 2013 design data. I didn't want to deal with the migration issues so many seemed to have so this saved me some steps starting off with a clean slate when we rolled out 2013.

 

This screen shot might help illustrate the issue I'm seeing....

 

STACKED.jpg

 

 

 

If I try and replicate this behavior from scratch in 2013 I'm unsuccessful and every step works as it should.

  • I created a simple circle using steel raw material and steel default color.
  • Next file is an assembly where the steel circle is 'painted' red.
  • Next file that red painted circle is used in an assembly with other red painted components.
  • That sub asy is then used in a top level assembly with a slew of other components and sub asy's.
  • Final drawing (IDW) shows the correct color style and doesn't revert back to raw material (as it shouldn't).

See below...working example.jpg

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Kenny

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karthur1
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Message 14 of 27 (549 Views)

Re: IDW not showing correct color styles

10-08-2012 10:20 AM in reply to: kwilsonamerex

It looks like you are doing everything right. From screen captures, its really difficult to say.

 

Hopefully AD can get to the bottom of it.  Please let us know what they find.

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kwilsonamerex
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Re: IDW not showing correct color styles

10-08-2012 10:50 AM in reply to: kwilsonamerex

Yea I'm at a loss too so hoping they will chime in. I may just submit this as a case to support since we are on subsciption to see if it will speed up a response. Thanks for your help and I will definitely post back any results we find.

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Kenny

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Re: IDW not showing correct color styles

11-15-2012 07:03 AM in reply to: kwilsonamerex

Well SP1.1 did not fix this problem. If anything it seems worse now.

 

Haven't heard anything back from ADSK either...

 

 

app issues.jpg

 

 

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Kenny

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Re: IDW not showing correct color styles

11-15-2012 07:13 AM in reply to: kwilsonamerex

OK I think I found another temporary 'fix'.

 

If I create a new LoD but don't make any changes, that seems to somehow force the IDW to fix itself. Don't ask me why or how but it does seem to fix this issue. It seems Inventor is getting confused which correct appearance or view rep to show for the drawing when you get a few levels up from a 'painted' IAM file. Seems to happen around the first sub-asy level or sometimes top level. Strange behavior but I hope they get this fixed in the next release. It's been an issue since 2011 IIRC but not near as bad as 2013.

 

Below is a scren shot after I created a new LOD in the assembly. This fixed my drawing. I then went back to my assembly and deleted the 'new' LoD. Drawing still showing the correct appearance so perhaps this is a fix. Crossing fingers LOL.

 

app issues LOD fix.jpg

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Kenny

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Re: IDW not showing correct color styles

11-15-2012 11:48 AM in reply to: kwilsonamerex

Never mind about the LoD fixing the issue. It's back again. This behavior is very strange and I can't place my finger on what exactly is triggering the issue. Some help or anyone else experience this??

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Kenny

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Message 19 of 27 (439 Views)

Re: IDW not showing correct color styles

11-21-2012 05:55 AM in reply to: kwilsonamerex

Bump to the top!!! Can anyone from ADSK help me? So far not getting any help.

 

Since my last post I have completely uninstalled Inventor Professional from the Suite. Re-installed Inventor and SP1.1. Issue is still there. 

 

We need a resolution from Autodesk on this as it's frustrating and the software is NOT behaving correctly.

 

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Kenny

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Yijiang.Cai
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Message 20 of 27 (422 Views)

Re: IDW not showing correct color styles

11-21-2012 07:14 PM in reply to: kwilsonamerex

Hi Kenny,

 

Many thank you to keep providing the feedback on this issue! And this is reproducible, and has been logged as 1473701 in our tracking system. This has been under investigation.

Thanks,
River Cai

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