I wish...

[Anonymous]

...to be allowed to use section lines as reference lines to put
dimensions in a drawing.

M.

[Anonymous]

I would caution trying to tie dimensions to annotations because annotations
are not part of the geometry. If the annotation moves or need to be moved
later, then your reference for that dimension will now be wrong.
Dimensions/annotations should always reference the base feature of the
geometry they are meant to dimension or annotate.

Ken
"MarcoA" wrote in message
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il giorno 27/06/2006 17.42 Andrew Faix (Autodesk) ha scritto:

> The REAL problem here is extension line formatting.

Formatting the extension line could be a (good) workaround: I could
continue to attach my extension line to the geometry (lines, centres,
axes), and THEN dragging the end of the line in order to avoid it to
overlap the section line.

I used this technique in other CAD softwares, but I always found it so
imprecise! How much should I drag?
If I could directly attach extension lines to every other line in the
view (section lines, in this case), it would be the best.

Just My 2 Cents, of course!

I wonder why it's not an implemented feature, and why it is so much
more difficult than attach the extension line to every other line in
the view... You know, I'm a very curious guy! (-;

Thanks.
M.

[Anonymous]

il giorno 27/06/2006 18.30 Ken ha scritto:

> I would caution trying to tie dimensions to annotations because annotations
> are not part of the geometry. If the annotation moves or need to be moved
> later, then your reference for that dimension will now be wrong.
> Dimensions/annotations should always reference the base feature of the
> geometry they are meant to dimension or annotate.

You mean that section lines are considered "annotations", do you?
It could be a good answer, but why can I tie dimensions to sketches,
then? They also would be "annotations", and a section line has been a
sketch before shooting the "done" command.
I find that it is a sort of "mismatch"...

M.

[Anonymous]

Ken is correct. A section line is technically annotation. It is therefore
in the same class as a dimension. The center point of the circular edge
should be the determining factor of the dimension value. While you will get
the same initial result by using a section line constrained to that same
center, its an associative relationship rather than explicit.

--
Andrew Faix
Product Designer - Inventor Drawing Manager
Autodesk

"MarcoA" wrote in message
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il giorno 27/06/2006 18.30 Ken ha scritto:

> I would caution trying to tie dimensions to annotations because
> annotations
> are not part of the geometry. If the annotation moves or need to be moved
> later, then your reference for that dimension will now be wrong.
> Dimensions/annotations should always reference the base feature of the
> geometry they are meant to dimension or annotate.

You mean that section lines are considered "annotations", do you?
It could be a good answer, but why can I tie dimensions to sketches,
then? They also would be "annotations", and a section line has been a
sketch before shooting the "done" command.
I find that it is a sort of "mismatch"...

M.

[Josh_Petitt]

>I would caution trying to tie dimensions to annotations because annotations are not part of the geometry.

In general I would definitely agree w/ you. However, section lines are a special sort because sometimes it would be useful for the reader to know exactly where the cut line is w.r.t. the view geometry. I'm thinking of a situation where you have multiple section lines through one view to show slices of a complex 3D part. If the viewer can visually see that the lines are X distance apart, this might be of use.

Didn't mean to but in...

[Anonymous]

Hey now we have 2 signs of the apocolypse, the first being me migrating.
Well I better not migrate, cuz then it's doomsday for sure!! ;~P


"Andrew Faix (Autodesk)" wrote in message
news:5219925@discussion.autodesk.com...
Ahh, I wasn't replying just to you 🙂

Did you agree with me? Let's hope not - I think that's one of the signs of
the apocalypse 😉

--
Andrew Faix
Product Designer - Inventor Drawing Manager
Autodesk


"Troy Grose >" <"mount_mordor ATbITTmEsPAM Hotmail DOT com">
wrote in message news:5219922@discussion.autodesk.com...
Ohh... awwww.... yelp....my wrist is already hurting and I haven't even
tried it yet. I am in sooo much pain.... 😉

No it's not used that often, at least not for me. So I *Guess* its
better that it is supported in a unconventional torturing kind of way.
(did I just agree with you!?!?!?)

Andrew Faix (Autodesk) wrote:
> Sure, it's actually five additional picks. I agree that's a lot of steps.
> How often does this ever have to be done?
>
> Is 5 additional picks better than not supporting it at all?
>

[Anonymous]

That is a good point, but then you are still dimensioning to the feature of
interest, in this case it is the location of the section line as opposed to
the location of the hole :^)

Ken
wrote in message news:5220319@discussion.autodesk.com...
>I would caution trying to tie dimensions to annotations because annotations
>are not part of the geometry.

In general I would definitely agree w/ you. However, section lines are a
special sort because sometimes it would be useful for the reader to know
exactly where the cut line is w.r.t. the view geometry. I'm thinking of a
situation where you have multiple section lines through one view to show
slices of a complex 3D part. If the viewer can visually see that the lines
are X distance apart, this might be of use.

Didn't mean to but in...

[Anonymous]

il giorno 27/06/2006 19.00 Josh_Petitt ha scritto:

> In general I would definitely agree w/ you. However, section lines
> are a special sort because sometimes it would be useful for the
> reader to know exactly where the cut line is w.r.t. the view
> geometry. I'm thinking of a situation where you have multiple
> section lines through one view to show slices of a complex 3D part.
> If the viewer can visually see that the lines are X distance apart,
> this might be of use.

Well, Andrew Faix showed how it is possible. And I say that in this
case you really want to show the position of the section line, so
you'll just apply the dimension when editing the line, then you'll get
it visible.
In other words, this seems to be the real case the technique applies to.

M.