How do I move objects?

[annelieselawrence]

I am creating a machine which is attached and I wanted to put these three pieces together and weld them together so they are one piece. I need the two arcs on either side of the nearly fully enclosed semi-circle. I actually don't even know how to move any objects that are already placed somewhere. Any ideas? Thanks!

[Anonymous]

Please place your parts into a zip file before attaching... thanks.

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I am creating a machine which is attached and I wanted to put these three
pieces together and weld them together so they are one piece. I need the
two arcs on either side of the nearly fully enclosed semi-circle. I
actually don't even know how to move any objects that are already placed
somewhere. Any ideas? Thanks!

[annelieselawrence]

I zipped the inventor file for you as requested.

[JDMather]

How much training did you get? Those are three separate parts should be three separate files. I would save 2 additional times and then delete the extra parts from each of the 3 files. Then I would create an assembly weldment file. Just like the real world.

[annelieselawrence]

Well, then one more question...I put them on a weldment file but then how do I attach them to each other. I am very new at Inventor. I have worked with AutoCad. I am still a student.

[andrewiv]

You really should go through some training or at least run through the tutorials before trying to use inventor. Look for contraints under the help file and it should answer your question.

[Anonymous]

You might find that the tutorials that are shipped with Inventor answer
many, many questions.

A weldment is similar to a "normal" assembly: you place component parts
"into" the weldment and you constraint them into their final positions.

Weldments then provide you with the ability to apply: weld preparations,
weld beads and post-weld machining features.

[JDMather]

>how do I attach them to each other
With assembly constraints.
Work with it a bit and if you can't figure it out hollar back and I will provide an example.

BTW students can get Autodesk Inventor Professional for free from http://engineersrule.org

This doen't address your immediate problem but you might want to go through this document before you develop too many bad habits.
http://home.pct.edu/~jmather/AU2006/MA13-3%20Mather.pdf

[JDMather]

>I am still a student.

Just out of curiosity - since I'm in the business - doesn't that imply that you are getting some level of professional instruction for which either you or the taxpayers are paying for? Or are you teaching yourself? I ask because it seems to me that a lot of students are doing the later because for some reason they don't seem to be getting what they are paying for.

[Josh_Petitt]

> ask because it seems to me that a lot of students are doing the later

JD, just an opinion from a former engineering student. The institution where I graduated had a good policy (IMHO). They would not teach ANY software package used by any of the courses. However, all software used by any class was available in the computer labs. The rationale behind this was that software packages change very, very quickly. However, engineering fundamentals do not change as quickly (especially for undergrads). So, with limited hours in a classroom, they concentrated on teaching the fundamentals and it was the students' responsibility to learn to use software XYZ to get the results they needed.

[JDMather]

>they concentrated on teaching the fundamentals
Like maybe the relationship between parts, assemblies and DOFs?

[swalton]

At my univerisity, we had a 1 credit hour course on the basics of drafting and using ProE. It was enough to so that you could design and build basic machines, but it did not get into any detail. there were people on campus who knew the program well. Also, most labs had access to the paper manuals (1991 timeframe).

The basic policy was that lecture time was not spent on teaching you how to use the software. There were lab sessions and office hours where you could get some help on meeting the requirements for the assignment, but the instructual time was spent on why you might want to solve a partial differential equation, not how to make Maple do it for you.

[annelieselawrence]

I am actually a Physics Major. I have worked with AutoCAD (architectural drafting) in High School but not since. I am now working for one of my professors with no training. I have went through a few tutorials but that is it.

[JDMather]

Did you get your problem figured out?

[annelieselawrence]

I suppose I have another question. How do you take the mirror image of something? Btw, I got this figured out! Thanks for the help

[JDMather]

Part or assembly?

http://home.pct.edu/~jmather/AU2006/MA13-3%20Mather.pdf
If a part there are two different methods - see #86.

[JDMCD]

you wouldnt be going to suny delhi by any chance would you?

[KristinaVogt5]

JD

My Eningeering University only required a 2 credit drafting class. Basicly that taught how the three view were generated, how to use basic paper drafting tools (I don't know why), and VERY basic AutoCAD.

There was an optional Inventor modeling class, but it was too hard to justify a CAD class when the other options were much higher level Engineering.

The mechanical engineering department's position was that the future employers will hire based on engineering skills and will then train new hires on the CAD software provided.

Some students got trained on a software on an intership or Co-op, so they ended up doing most of the drafting for any design groups.

Do I feel my lack of CAD classes hurt my employment opportunities. Yes, but what should the university do? Which CAD package should be taught? There is certainly no time to teach more than one. Does the university pick the most commonly used package in the State or the Country? Should the university survey graduates to see what package is most commenly used by alumni? Shold they pick the lowest cost to the University and student tuitions?

I don't have the aswer, but I feel it is much for complex than "not getting your money's worth."

Just my humble point of view.

Kristina Vogt
Project Engineer

University of Wisconsin-Platteville graduate

[Anonymous]

Normally, the universities go for the lowest cost to purchase, for the
classes they charge an arm 'n' a leg for... 🙂

A lot have gone to SolidEdge, because UGS was giving it away for free....

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Dennis Jeffrey, AICE, MICE
260-312-6188
Instructor/Author/Sr. App Engr.
Inventor 11 Professional SP2
HP Pavillion Zv5000 (Modified)
Geforce Go 440, Driver: .8185, 2GB RAM
XP Pro SP2, Windows Classic Theme
http://www.design-excellence.com
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JD

My Eningeering University only required a 2 credit drafting class. Basicly
that taught how the three view were generated, how to use basic paper
drafting tools (I don't know why), and VERY basic AutoCAD.

There was an optional Inventor modeling class, but it was too hard to
justify a CAD class when the other options were much higher level
Engineering.

The mechanical engineering department's position was that the future
employers will hire based on engineering skills and will then train new
hires on the CAD software provided.

Some students got trained on a software on an intership or Co-op, so they
ended up doing most of the drafting for any design groups.

Do I feel my lack of CAD classes hurt my employment opportunities. Yes, but
what should the university do? Which CAD package should be taught? There
is certainly no time to teach more than one. Does the university pick the
most commonly used package in the State or the Country? Should the
university survey graduates to see what package is most commenly used by
alumni? Shold they pick the lowest cost to the University and student
tuitions?

I don't have the aswer, but I feel it is much for complex than "not getting
your money's worth."

Just my humble point of view.

Kristina Vogt
Project Engineer

University of Wisconsin-Platteville graduate

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately, the universities have not discovered that the job of drafter
has disappeared in favor of engineer/designers doing all the work. Old time
engineers ( my generation) felt it was beneath them to lift a pencil.....
Now, most of them have been retired.

--
Dennis Jeffrey, AICE, MICE
260-312-6188
Instructor/Author/Sr. App Engr.
Inventor 11 Professional SP2
HP Pavillion Zv5000 (Modified)
Geforce Go 440, Driver: .8185, 2GB RAM
XP Pro SP2, Windows Classic Theme
http://www.design-excellence.com
wrote in message news:5541774@discussion.autodesk.com...
JD

My Eningeering University only required a 2 credit drafting class. Basicly
that taught how the three view were generated, how to use basic paper
drafting tools (I don't know why), and VERY basic AutoCAD.

There was an optional Inventor modeling class, but it was too hard to
justify a CAD class when the other options were much higher level
Engineering.

The mechanical engineering department's position was that the future
employers will hire based on engineering skills and will then train new
hires on the CAD software provided.

Some students got trained on a software on an intership or Co-op, so they
ended up doing most of the drafting for any design groups.

Do I feel my lack of CAD classes hurt my employment opportunities. Yes, but
what should the university do? Which CAD package should be taught? There
is certainly no time to teach more than one. Does the university pick the
most commonly used package in the State or the Country? Should the
university survey graduates to see what package is most commenly used by
alumni? Shold they pick the lowest cost to the University and student
tuitions?

I don't have the aswer, but I feel it is much for complex than "not getting
your money's worth."

Just my humble point of view.

Kristina Vogt
Project Engineer

University of Wisconsin-Platteville graduate