Hidden Line Visibility Controls in IDW

[Anonymous]

Autodesk, please give me more tools to control hidden line visibility in
IDW's. We loose countless hours turning off extraneous hidden lines in
attempt to create legible drawing views.

Improvements we to see include:

1. Selection of lines in an IDW view by feature for subsequent visibility
toggling (as you can for colour and linetype).

2. Selection of lines in an IDW view by edge type for subsequent visibility
toggling (eg hidden edge filter) and further the ability to use this filter
select all filtered edges by view.

3. Ability to suppress hidden line display on a part-by-part basis (as you
can for sectioning).

4. Ability to suppress hidden line display on a part-by-part basis of all
"self generated" hidden lines. By "self generated" hidden lines I mean
lines that are hidden because the represented edge is obscured by the part
itself rather than another part. So thinking in the context of the assembly

5. Suppress hidden line display beyond a reference plane in a view.

Perhaps some or all of these functions may some day be do-able via VBA - if
that is the case then hurry up and get on with the IDW environment exposure
to the API.

Hidden line controls such as these and persistent design views in the IDW
environment are (from our application perspective) the top remaining time
wasters and product short comings. Fix these and as far as I am concerned
most of the rest is just gravy.

Dave

[Anonymous]

I second all these as definite needs for IDW world.

Or as Dave says, expose the API so Kent can write it for us 🙂

- drew


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[Anonymous]

The .IDW side of Inventor needs careful, focused attention and a lot of
programming hours. The hidden line bug born in R7 is evidence of changes
made without proper attention to detail causes problems, frustration and
expense to users(listen up Autodesk QA department, we are talking about
money here).

In the mean time, you may want to work more with design views to control
visibility of certain parts in your assembly, it is much faster than trying
to individually hide items, and you can apply them selectively to specific
views.

Anthony.

"David Radlin" wrote in message
news:6C12BDCB17D7082087522D8F7340AE4A@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Autodesk, please give me more tools to control hidden line visibility in
> IDW's. We loose countless hours turning off extraneous hidden lines in
> attempt to create legible drawing views.
>
> Improvements we to see include:
>
> 1. Selection of lines in an IDW view by feature for subsequent visibility
> toggling (as you can for colour and linetype).
>
> 2. Selection of lines in an IDW view by edge type for subsequent
visibility
> toggling (eg hidden edge filter) and further the ability to use this
filter
> select all filtered edges by view.
>
> 3. Ability to suppress hidden line display on a part-by-part basis (as you
> can for sectioning).
>
> 4. Ability to suppress hidden line display on a part-by-part basis of all
> "self generated" hidden lines. By "self generated" hidden lines I mean
> lines that are hidden because the represented edge is obscured by the part
> itself rather than another part. So thinking in the context of the
assembly
>
> 5. Suppress hidden line display beyond a reference plane in a view.
>
> Perhaps some or all of these functions may some day be do-able via VBA -
if
> that is the case then hurry up and get on with the IDW environment
exposure
> to the API.
>
> Hidden line controls such as these and persistent design views in the IDW
> environment are (from our application perspective) the top remaining time
> wasters and product short comings. Fix these and as far as I am concerned
> most of the rest is just gravy.
>
> Dave
>
>

[Anonymous]

Wonder if the idw guy and the dialog-box guy hang out together? >G>
~Larry

"AnthonyFettig" wrote in message
news:7591DC3A8A6764FEB574ACC80C093922@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> The .IDW side of Inventor needs careful, focused attention and a lot of
> programming hours. The hidden line bug born in R7 is evidence of changes
> made without proper attention to detail causes problems, frustration and
> expense to users(listen up Autodesk QA department, we are talking about
> money here).
>
> In the mean time, you may want to work more with design views to control
> visibility of certain parts in your assembly, it is much faster than
trying
> to individually hide items, and you can apply them selectively to specific
> views.
>
> Anthony.
>
> "David Radlin" wrote in message
> news:6C12BDCB17D7082087522D8F7340AE4A@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Autodesk, please give me more tools to control hidden line visibility in
> > IDW's. We loose countless hours turning off extraneous hidden lines in
> > attempt to create legible drawing views.
> >
> > Improvements we to see include:
> >
> > 1. Selection of lines in an IDW view by feature for subsequent
visibility
> > toggling (as you can for colour and linetype).
> >
> > 2. Selection of lines in an IDW view by edge type for subsequent
> visibility
> > toggling (eg hidden edge filter) and further the ability to use this
> filter
> > select all filtered edges by view.
> >
> > 3. Ability to suppress hidden line display on a part-by-part basis (as
you
> > can for sectioning).
> >
> > 4. Ability to suppress hidden line display on a part-by-part basis of
all
> > "self generated" hidden lines. By "self generated" hidden lines I mean
> > lines that are hidden because the represented edge is obscured by the
part
> > itself rather than another part. So thinking in the context of the
> assembly
> >
> > 5. Suppress hidden line display beyond a reference plane in a view.
> >
> > Perhaps some or all of these functions may some day be do-able via VBA -
> if
> > that is the case then hurry up and get on with the IDW environment
> exposure
> > to the API.
> >
> > Hidden line controls such as these and persistent design views in the
IDW
> > environment are (from our application perspective) the top remaining
time
> > wasters and product short comings. Fix these and as far as I am
concerned
> > most of the rest is just gravy.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
>
>

[Anonymous]

Don't know about that, but they need to get shaking. I'm spending more and
more time in R6 just to get the drawings out. This is costing time, and
time is money. I find it hard to believe a sp has not been released to
correct this "oversight". I fear that they broke something big time and an
easy fix is not available.


"Larry Caldwell" wrote in message
news:913513280629C1C2C61F997D5007B84F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Wonder if the idw guy and the dialog-box guy hang out together? >G>
> ~Larry

[Anonymous]

There are still issues from at least R3 that could really benefit from some
concentrated attention but it would seem the visionaries whom make up the
priority list don't share our vision.
~Larry

"Jimmy Carr" wrote in message
news:0BE01F09E25E67C495EB5B463117D0CC@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Don't know about that, but they need to get shaking. I'm spending more
and
> more time in R6 just to get the drawings out. This is costing time, and
> time is money. I find it hard to believe a sp has not been released to
> correct this "oversight". I fear that they broke something big time and
an
> easy fix is not available.
>
>
> "Larry Caldwell" wrote in message
> news:913513280629C1C2C61F997D5007B84F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Wonder if the idw guy and the dialog-box guy hang out together? >G>
> > ~Larry
>
>

[Anonymous]

> In the mean time, you may want to work more with design views to control
> visibility of certain parts in your assembly, it is much faster than
trying
> to individually hide items, and you can apply them selectively to specific
> views.

Anthony, thanks for the design view suggestion - this is a technique that we
are very familiar with. And, as I briefly stated in my original post - the
lack of design view persistency when applied to a view was the other topper
of our time waster list.

Dave

[Anonymous]

AMEN Bro'