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*Dotson, Sean
Message 1 of 24 (109 Views)

Hatching

109 Views, 23 Replies
10-31-2002 03:55 AM
This was brought up in the legacy NG.

If I make a part out of steel and then one out of AL and put them in an assy
and then and IDW and make a section view. Both parts use ANSI 31 as the
hatch style. They should use the proper hatch style for the material. This
is not the case in 5, 5.3 or 6. Is this a bug or was this functionality not
included. If not then it probably should in the future..

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Sean Dotson, PE
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*McConnell, Cory
Message 2 of 24 (109 Views)

Re: Hatching

10-31-2002 04:04 AM in reply to: *Dotson, Sean
I caught that post as well. I was going to reply when I got home. In my
Technical Drawing Book (cant remember rev - that's why I was going to wait)
it says there are different hatch patterns for different materials blah
blah, but it is widely accepted to use ANSI 31 for all materials.

Stay tuned for exact quote. (after I get home)

This makes me wonder if they intend on adding the functionality.

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Cory McConnell
BJ pipeline Inspection
"Sean Dotson" wrote in message
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> This was brought up in the legacy NG.
>
> If I make a part out of steel and then one out of AL and put them in an
assy
> and then and IDW and make a section view. Both parts use ANSI 31 as the
> hatch style. They should use the proper hatch style for the material.
This
> is not the case in 5, 5.3 or 6. Is this a bug or was this functionality
not
> included. If not then it probably should in the future..
>
> --
> Sean Dotson, PE
> http://www.sdotson.com
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*Gwin, Hal
Message 3 of 24 (109 Views)

Re: Hatching

10-31-2002 05:29 AM in reply to: *Dotson, Sean
Latest ANSI drafting standards (ANSI Y14.3M) have changed that (showing your
age again Sean). For mechanical applications the standard calls for all
materials to use a common hatch pattern. Architectural applications still
use various patterns to denote different materials.

I have posted a page from the Drawing Requirements Manual (10th Ed).


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Hal Gwin
Mechanical Designer
Xenogen
*Germer, Ole
Message 4 of 24 (109 Views)

Re:

10-31-2002 05:34 AM in reply to: *Dotson, Sean
It does not say ANSI Y14.3M at the top. This is an internal standard for
you company -- not ANSI.

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Ole Germer
Mechanical Machine Design and Drafting Service
http://germer.tripod.ca/index.html


"Hal Gwin" wrote in message
news:1AF51FB8AF25392C1782050A47AC2530@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Latest ANSI drafting standards (ANSI Y14.3M) have changed that (showing
your
> age again Sean). For mechanical applications the standard calls for all
> materials to use a common hatch pattern. Architectural applications still
> use various patterns to denote different materials.
>
> I have posted a page from the Drawing Requirements Manual (10th Ed).
>
>
> --
> Hal Gwin
> Mechanical Designer
> Xenogen
>
>
*Dotson, Sean
Message 5 of 24 (109 Views)

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10-31-2002 05:46 AM in reply to: *Dotson, Sean
"(showing your age again Sean)"

um.. I'm at the other end of that spectrum Hal. I think they made us draw
on a drafting table in college just so we could say we did it...

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Sean Dotson, PE
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"Hal Gwin" wrote in message
news:1AF51FB8AF25392C1782050A47AC2530@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Latest ANSI drafting standards (ANSI Y14.3M) have changed that (showing
your
> age again Sean). For mechanical applications the standard calls for all
> materials to use a common hatch pattern. Architectural applications still
> use various patterns to denote different materials.
>
> I have posted a page from the Drawing Requirements Manual (10th Ed).
>
>
> --
> Hal Gwin
> Mechanical Designer
> Xenogen
>
>
*Gwin, Hal
Message 6 of 24 (109 Views)

Re:

10-31-2002 06:40 AM in reply to: *Dotson, Sean
True Ole, however the Drawing Requirements Manual, published by Global
Engineering Documents, is in conformance with the latest ANSI and MIL
drafting standards. The wording of the paragraph regarding section hatch
patterns comes out of the ANSI standard virtually word for word.


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Hal Gwin
Mechanical Designer
Xenogen
*Gwin, Hal
Message 7 of 24 (109 Views)

Re:

10-31-2002 06:56 AM in reply to: *Dotson, Sean
I kind of thought you were probably closer to 30 than to 40.

As far as the sectioning, the drafting text books (generalizing of course)
haven't been brought up to the latest ANSI or MIL or any other standards in
the past 20+ years. I taught drafting for about 3 years and that was always
a problem, "This is what the book says but this is what the standards say".


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Hal Gwin
Mechanical Designer
Xenogen
*Germer, Ole
Message 8 of 24 (109 Views)

Re:

10-31-2002 07:16 AM in reply to: *Dotson, Sean
BTW Hal,
I have the ANSI Y14.5M 1982 Standard. There is no mention of hatching
in this standard -- just dimensioning and tolerancing. At the back of this
standard other standards are listed. The standard you are looking for is
called American National Standard Drafting Practices -- Multi and Sectional
View Drawings Y14.3-1975(R1980).
http://www.asmeny.org/cgi-bin/web015c?CS+Y14
This is the final word on the appropriate standard pertaining to everyone's
questions. ASME Multiview and Sectional View Drawings Y14.3M Published 1994
(Reaffirmed year: 1999)($42 for 52 pages). It also shows Engineering Drawing
Practices Y14.100-2000 Published 2001($52 for 54 pages). Which show what you
are after can only be gotten if you purchase the standards.
BTW Standards found in technical colleges or even universities are near
to zero. So good luck with your conjectures.


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Ole Germer
Mechanical Machine Design and Drafting Service
http://germer.tripod.ca/index.html




"Hal Gwin" wrote in message
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> True Ole, however the Drawing Requirements Manual, published by Global
> Engineering Documents, is in conformance with the latest ANSI and MIL
> drafting standards. The wording of the paragraph regarding section hatch
> patterns comes out of the ANSI standard virtually word for word.
>
>
> --
> Hal Gwin
> Mechanical Designer
> Xenogen
>
>
*Gwin, Hal
Message 9 of 24 (109 Views)

Re:

10-31-2002 08:03 AM in reply to: *Dotson, Sean
I agree with you 100%.
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Hal Gwin
Mechanical Designer
Xenogen
*Caldwell, Larry
Message 10 of 24 (109 Views)

Re:

10-31-2002 10:36 AM in reply to: *Dotson, Sean
Where did that book come from, Hal? Do you know if they have a new one for
ANSI Y14.5M 1994? Wonder if you could email me the title, author and maybe
the ISBN if you wouldn't mind. I have several books, but I know there are
things that aren't covered them so I keep looking around. Is that book
pretty comprehensive? Thanks!
~Larry

"Hal Gwin" wrote in message
news:1AF51FB8AF25392C1782050A47AC2530@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Latest ANSI drafting standards (ANSI Y14.3M) have changed that (showing
your
> age again Sean). For mechanical applications the standard calls for all
> materials to use a common hatch pattern. Architectural applications still
> use various patterns to denote different materials.
>
> I have posted a page from the Drawing Requirements Manual (10th Ed).
>
>
> --
> Hal Gwin
> Mechanical Designer
> Xenogen
>
>
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