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guzie
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Message 1 of 15 (65 Views)

file check out problem when saving

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11-24-2002 05:40 AM
I can't seem to get multi user to work without Inventor wanting to automatically check out a file when I save it. I open up an assembly file, do some changes and then click save. I get a dialog box showing the assembly file name, its file status and a row listing either "no" or "checkout/save". I just want to save. I don't want it to checkout the file. I just want to save and close. I have tried it in both "shared" and "semi-isolated" modes and I cannot get it to do just a save. Prior versions would ask me if I wished to reserve files and I would tell it no and move on. R6 is not giving me a choice. I have ended up disabling the whole multi-user scheme until I can get this resolved.
*McConnell, Cory
Message 2 of 15 (65 Views)

Re: file check out problem when saving

11-24-2002 11:41 AM in reply to: guzie
It won't let you modify (which means save) a file unless it is checked out
to you. I believe it has to be this way, otherwise another user could
modify and save the file while you are modifying and saving the file.
Which is the purpose of a multi-user environment.

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Cory McConnell
BJ Pipeline Inspection
"guzie" wrote in message
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> I can't seem to get multi user to work without Inventor wanting to
automatically check out a file when I save it. I open up an assembly file,
do some changes and then click save. I get a dialog box showing the assembly
file name, its file status and a row listing either "no" or "checkout/save".
I just want to save. I don't want it to checkout the file. I just want to
save and close. I have tried it in both "shared" and "semi-isolated" modes
and I cannot get it to do just a save. Prior versions would ask me if I
wished to reserve files and I would tell it no and move on. R6 is not giving
me a choice. I have ended up disabling the whole multi-user scheme until I
can get this resolved.
>
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guzie
Posts: 16
Registered: ‎09-03-2003
Message 3 of 15 (65 Views)

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11-24-2002 08:50 PM in reply to: guzie
I understand the principle. Something just doesn't seem right though. The checkout should be in the beginning when you first open the file and choose to edit it and not the end. It always used to work that way when we would get the reserve message. Now its like I am checking out a book that I just got done reading. I am just trying to put it back, not check it out. The checkout needs to be in the beginning so that anyone accessing the file after I do will be aware that I am editing it. What good is checking out when I am just saving and then closing the file? Now it sits as checked out on the network but I am already done with it. To clear the checkout I need to open it and go through the check in process. Then I try to save and it wants to check it out again!!!!! Argh. Just trying to clear a checkout causes another one. Its a piece of garbage this way. The old method worked fine. Now it is screwed up.
*DJSpaceMouse
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11-24-2002 09:13 PM in reply to: guzie
You ARE supposed to checkout the file in the
beginning.  Change the browser to File Status by clicking the arrow next to
"Model" and checkout the file before you make any edits to it.  Then when
you save it, the modified version is saved in your Workspace.  It is then
copied back to the shared location after you check it back in.

 


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I
understand the principle. Something just doesn't seem right though. The
checkout should be in the beginning when you first open the file and choose to
edit it and not the end. It always used to work that way when we would get the
reserve message. Now its like I am checking out a book that I just got done
reading. I am just trying to put it back, not check it out. The checkout needs
to be in the beginning so that anyone accessing the file after I do will be
aware that I am editing it. What good is checking out when I am just saving
and then closing the file? Now it sits as checked out on the network but I am
already done with it. To clear the checkout I need to open it and go through
the check in process. Then I try to save and it wants to check it out
again!!!!! Argh. Just trying to clear a checkout causes another one. Its a
piece of garbage this way. The old method worked fine. Now it is screwed
up.
*DJSpaceMouse
Message 5 of 15 (65 Views)

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11-24-2002 09:13 PM in reply to: guzie
I highly recommend you read the DOC file about
Project Management and Collaborative Design on the AIS6 CD.


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I
understand the principle. Something just doesn't seem right though. The
checkout should be in the beginning when you first open the file and choose to
edit it and not the end. It always used to work that way when we would get the
reserve message. Now its like I am checking out a book that I just got done
reading. I am just trying to put it back, not check it out. The checkout needs
to be in the beginning so that anyone accessing the file after I do will be
aware that I am editing it. What good is checking out when I am just saving
and then closing the file? Now it sits as checked out on the network but I am
already done with it. To clear the checkout I need to open it and go through
the check in process. Then I try to save and it wants to check it out
again!!!!! Argh. Just trying to clear a checkout causes another one. Its a
piece of garbage this way. The old method worked fine. Now it is screwed
up.
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guzie
Posts: 16
Registered: ‎09-03-2003
Message 6 of 15 (65 Views)

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11-24-2002 09:52 PM in reply to: guzie
I know all about that area and I have checked out the document. I have a hard copy of it right here. I have read it all. I have been with Inventor since pre R1 stuff so the whole file reserving process is not new to me. It actually only is supposed to copy the file to my workspace if I run in semi-isolated mode. I have it set in shared mode. What I am saying is that it is flawed. An example would be to open a assembly file and check out several parts. Do a few changes in the main assembly and then save. You will end up with the parts you selected and the assembly itself checked out. Close it and re-open it. Now check the files back in including the assembly. Everything is fine until you go and save again. It wants to checkout that same assembly that you just checked in. There isn't a way to check them all in and then just save without it adding another checkout. In the past I had the option to reserve a file or not. I was not forced to do so at the save. I am stuck too. I already have some files in the older versions that are currently flagged reserve. I cannot clear their status without running multi-user on and running with it on brings out this new flaw where I keep getting files checked out at save time. I can't win for losing.
*DJSpaceMouse
Message 7 of 15 (65 Views)

Re:

11-24-2002 09:58 PM in reply to: guzie
Is there a reason you're not using the preferred
Semi-Isolated environment?  The Shared mode is really only there in
Inventor 6 for backward-compatibility's sake.


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I
know all about that area and I have checked out the document. I have a hard
copy of it right here. I have read it all. I have been with Inventor since pre
R1 stuff so the whole file reserving process is not new to me. It actually
only is supposed to copy the file to my workspace if I run in semi-isolated
mode. I have it set in shared mode. What I am saying is that it is flawed. An
example would be to open a assembly file and check out several parts. Do a few
changes in the main assembly and then save. You will end up with the parts you
selected and the assembly itself checked out. Close it and re-open it. Now
check the files back in including the assembly. Everything is fine until you
go and save again. It wants to checkout that same assembly that you just
checked in. There isn't a way to check them all in and then just save without
it adding another checkout. In the past I had the option to reserve a file or
not. I was not forced to do so at the save. I am stuck too. I already have
some files in the older versions that are currently flagged reserve. I cannot
clear their status without running multi-user on and running with it on brings
out this new flaw where I keep getting files checked out at save time. I can't
win for losing.
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guzie
Posts: 16
Registered: ‎09-03-2003
Message 8 of 15 (65 Views)

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11-24-2002 10:16 PM in reply to: guzie
Because we do not want to copy data to our local drives for changes. All work is done on the network drive.
*Fulford, Drew
Message 9 of 15 (65 Views)

Re:

11-24-2002 10:33 PM in reply to: guzie
Kev

I see no reason whay a semi-isolated cant have the local work areas also on
the server but in user specified designation.

- drew

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"guzie" wrote in message
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> Because we do not want to copy data to our local drives for changes. All
work is done on the network drive.
>
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guzie
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Message 10 of 15 (65 Views)

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11-24-2002 10:45 PM in reply to: guzie
We can but our company still does not allow files to be copied to other locations for editing purposes. They need to stay where they are originally located so that is why the shared mode needs to be used. Either way the checkout/checkin process now sucks. Either way I still cannot just do a simple save without having the checkout applied. So how in the heck do I check in files and save without it re-applying the checkout? Evidently I have you guys stumped because you are focusing on whether or not I am running in semi-isolated mode or not. That doesn't matter. Both modes have the same issue. How do I just save without applying the stupid checkout? What a piece of junk this new mode is.
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