Dynamic Tool Tip - Enter values as you go?

[Anonymous]

Hi All

I have just started learning to use Inventor, and am finding it very tedious to have to "Sketch" an object then dimention it to get the correct size.

Is there some way to enter values as you go like the dynamic tool tip in AutoCAD.

cheers
Damian

[Anonymous]

What version of IV, the later versions do have "Precision Input" box.

Number one tip with IV, it's not Autocad. Number two tip, keep your sketchs
simple. Don't try to do everything on one sketch. Don't think as much about
how to draw the item, think more in terms of how its going to be made.

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Hi All

I have just started learning to use Inventor, and am finding it very tedious
to have to "Sketch" an object then dimention it to get the correct size.

Is there some way to enter values as you go like the dynamic tool tip in
AutoCAD.

cheers
Damian

[Anonymous]

Think of creating a Paper Napkin Sketch. Simple shapes as Blair
described. Here's a few excerpts (not complete) from my web based
courseware.

Have you gone through the tutorials in inventor?

A 3D modeling program is difficult to learn without training.

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[Anonymous]

Here's the example file:

https://teknigroup.com/courseware/2010/Module00/sk1/files/sk1-01finished.pdf
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[Anonymous]

Thanks for the responses. I get how to add constraints and dimensions, it just seems that you do everything twice. I have used other 3D packages before, but as I go through the tutorials it seems inefficient. Someone mentioned a precision input but I cant seem to find it. I'm using Inventor 2010.

Guess I just need to get used to a different ideaology. I'm assuming what seems silly now makes perfect sense once I get better at Inventor. I'm imagining all the constrainints and dimentions make the drawings rather cluttered.

So having said that, is there a way I can enter values as I Sketch.


cheers
Damian

[JDMather]

>...it just seems that you do everything twice.

There are no more steps to Inventor than ANY other CAD program if you set it up correctly.
See http://home.pct.edu/~jmather/AU2006/MA13-3%20Mather.pdf

>Someone mentioned a precision input but I cant seem to find it. I'm using Inventor 2010.

Forget anyone ever mentioned that. If you find it and become dependent on it you will never learn the proper techniques.

[Anonymous]

It is FAR more efficient to use the paper napkin approach in any 3D
parametric modeler.

1. Create simple sketch geometry while inferring geometric constraints.
This applies to virtually ALL 3D modelers, not just Inventor.

2. Apply any missing geometric constraints. (There should be few of
these, if any).
3. Apply dimensional constraints, starting with the smallest dimension
first.

If you doubt this approach, I'll race you to the finish line. Forget
direct input entry from AutoCAD, etc. See this link:

http://teknigroup.com/Videos/InvDiscussions/48SecondSketch.html
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[JDMather]

>I'm imagining all the constrainints and dimentions make the drawings rather cluttered.

I never have any constraints displayed? I know what constraints Inventor has automatically applied and I certainly know what constraints I have manually applied. The dimensions are exactly the same dimensions that the machinist will need to make the part - can't do without them. Keep sketches simple.

>So having said that, is there a way I can enter values as I Sketch....

AutoCAD method would be double work. In AutoCAD if you use Direct Distance Entry you enter the distance once and then dimension later (two steps). In Inventor one step - dimension is the DDE.

[Anonymous]

Thanks again for the responses. I appreciate it. So I'll take the advice and persevere with the way Inventor wants me to do things

My problem is probably lack of familiarity. I sketch and then dimension and my constraints make "UNUSUAL" things happen. just need more practice.

cheers
Damian

[Anonymous]

read my last post. Constraints first, then smallest to largest dims.
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[JDMather]

>"UNUSUAL" things happen.

Sketch one line, circle, polygon, rectangle or arc and dimension it immediately before continuing. This will give you a sense of scale for the rest of the sketch so that "unusual" things don't happen.

I too missed DDE when I first started Inventor. You might post a suggestion here http://www.augi.com for DDE in Inventor.

[Anonymous]

The first time I opened/used IV, I thought what a backwards stupid
sketching/drawing enviroment as well. After8-9 years of working in IV, when
I have to do some basic work in Acad, I think, what a stupid drawing/sketch
enviroment.

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>"UNUSUAL" things happen.

Sketch one line, circle, polygon, rectangle or arc and dimension it
immediately before continuing. This will give you a sense of scale for the
rest of the sketch so that "unusual" things don't happen.

I too missed DDE when I first started Inventor. You might post a suggestion
here http://www.augi.com for DDE in Inventor.

[JDMather]

>So I'll take the advice and persevere with the way Inventor wants me to do things

This lady presents an interesting Inventor sketch workflow -
1:02:31
http://au.autodesk.com/?nd=class&session_id=5533

http://au.autodesk.com/?nd=material&session_material_id=7225

[Anonymous]

No need, it's already there. Here's the 2010 version. Stay tuned.
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[JDMather]

>No need, it's already there. Here's the 2010 version.

Anybody using the Precise Input toolbar in that manner in my class would be advised to change to another section. That is not what I saw Amy demonstrate in that link.

[Anonymous]

I said, "stay tuned" 🙂
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[adamvday]

I don't know if im totaly understanding this wrong but i am watching one of the Autodesk tutorials and he is entering values for the dimensions of shapes as he builds the shapes.

 http://mfgcommunity.autodesk.com/learning/tutorials/details/Autodesk_Inventor_Fundamentals_1/

When I try to sketch parts there are no values displayed at all as I go and i have no idea what the size of the pieces are. yeah its true i can sketch "by eye" but i might as well be using sketchbook pro and drawing with the tablet.

[blair]

In the video clip, the presenter is using IV2011, not sure if this feature was in IV2010 (judging by the date of your first post) IV2011 was released around the 18th of March 2010.

You may not have the "Heads Up Display" enabled in your: Tools>Application Options>Sketch>Heads Up Display>Enabled: along the "Enable Pointer Input" in the Heda-Up Dispaly Settings tab.