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ferrisb
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dwf's of 2d prints look like crap crayola line quality

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08-10-2011 11:25 AM

Actually we use the industry standard to describe how these things look, but didn't think I could post that particular word...

Looks bad on the .jpg, looks worse on a projector in a room full of engineers : )

 

Does anyone know how to fix this for dwf's.

 

Changing rez and or plot size, save as vs. plot doesn't seem to do anything.

 

Pretty big issue in my mind.   I found some posts from a few years back and would hope this is fixed by now.

 

Using INV 2009.

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johnsonshiue
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Re: dwf's of 2d prints look like crap crayola line quality

08-10-2011 01:12 PM in reply to: ferrisb

Do you mind posting the Inventor files here or send them to me? I would like to take a look and try it out on my side.

Thanks!

 



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Principal SQA Engineer, Inventor
Mechanical Design
Autodesk, Inc.

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ferrisb
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Re: dwf's of 2d prints look like crap crayola line quality

08-11-2011 06:34 AM in reply to: johnsonshiue

Thanks ever so much for the response.

Been trying to get upgraded to 2012 software and problems like this are not helping the cause for the 50k po that we would need to upgrade everyone.

 

 

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Re: dwf's of 2d prints look like crap crayola line quality

08-11-2011 01:14 PM in reply to: ferrisb

Hi! I took a deeper look at this behavior. I think I might understand the issue a little better now. The issue here is how line weight is represented in CAD-Free format like DWF or PDF and CAD format like Inventor files. In CAD-Free format, the goal is to give the viewer true WYSWYG (what you see is what you get) experience. This means a line will look in computer screen in the same way as if it was printed on paper: the line weight is fixed and the closer you look and the thicker it becomes.

In CAD system, the software adjust the line weight according to the zoom factor to avoid the comical  representation you mention here. It is to avoid the cluttering of lines when a designer looks closely to the lines. But, in theory, what you see in CAD is not really what you will get on paper.

I am not saying CAD-Free format cannot have the same behavior like in CAD. But, the goal is different. The requirement of WYSWYG results in the behavior you are seeing unfortunately.

Thanks!

 



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Principal SQA Engineer, Inventor
Mechanical Design
Autodesk, Inc.

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RayFeiler
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Re: dwf's of 2d prints look like crap crayola line quality

08-11-2011 01:25 PM in reply to: ferrisb

Try setting your line weight to it's lowest value. It will not fix your problem but it might look better.

Line Weight.JPG

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ferrisb
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Re: dwf's of 2d prints look like crap crayola line quality

08-11-2011 03:22 PM in reply to: johnsonshiue

Thanks, I was affraid of something like that.

Really is a shame because it reflects poorly on the Inventor product line when the dwf used at a presentation has poor quality.

 

I hope they do not decide to stick with dwgs, I prefer working in idw's.

 

Is there another recomendation for presenting my idw's clearly with 3d models at presentations?

My pdfs look fine, but I don't want to have to have a dwg, pdf and dwf for each drawing.

I don't want everyone, anyone really to have access to the idw or iam, but they must see the design intent clearly.

 

Main goal from Drafting 101 is to clearly and accuratly convey ideas from on party to another, at least that's what I was taught.

Should be an easier way to do this.

 

If not please keep at it so I can get my company to keep buying new software!

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ferrisb
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Re: dwf's of 2d prints look like crap crayola line quality

08-11-2011 03:23 PM in reply to: RayFeiler

Did not do the trick, but good suggestion!

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Re: dwf's of 2d prints look like crap crayola line quality

10-17-2013 08:10 AM in reply to: RayFeiler

RayFeiler wrote:

Try setting your line weight to it's lowest value. It will not fix your problem but it might look better.

Line Weight.JPG


I had similar problem with published dwf's and changing line thicknesses in Layer setting worked for me. Important part was to change edges that are set as your default or standard. I had multiple standards in my library. I also had problem with quality/resolution of shaded views in dwf and inventor. To fix that you need to go to tools->document setting->drawing and change shaded views/use bitmap to offline only. Results are not as good in dwf as in idw, but the difference is huge.

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Re: dwf's of 2d prints look like crap crayola line quality

10-17-2013 08:12 AM in reply to: krystianwiatr

attached are files of before and after..

 

I changed visible edges line thickness from .014" to .002" on layer settings

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