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*GCooper
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Dual Processor Documentation? for ROI on a workstation?

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11-14-2002 06:52 AM
Sorry to bring this up again, since it has been nearly discussed to death
here and in the other NGs.

But, Where would I find and "official" Autodesk document that I could
reference in my cost justification for a new machine with dual processors.
The guy writing the ROI wants an "official" document that sites dual
processors as beneficial. I have seen this before but just can't seem to
find it.

I also need some ammo for justifying RAID0 w/ three drives (rumor has it
this is the stuff!!!??) and a 900XGL? Does anyone know of a really good
article, especially with benchmarks that used Inventor for some level of
testing. Adesk's video card bench marks and certifications really don't seem
to guide you toward any sort of a performance workstation or video card. I
still can't see why anyone would buy a 900xgl if a (550xgl or DCC or GF4)
performs as well
(http://support.autodesk.com/inventor-graphic-cards/C_P4_2K_files/7.htm) and
I really want a 900XGL!!!!? I need some sort of hard evidence. From adesk's
testing we should all be running the GF4 or Quadro 2 Pro or 200 NVS? And
Cadence and Cadalyst never seem to use a bench mark that includes Inventor?

And if I use Sean's data an M50 or single processor 340 (thankfully with a
900XGL ) would be the way to go? Sean, when is the benchmark going to
include an *.idw with 10 views of a 15K part assembly, with dimensioning
while the views are going precise in the background????? Just jerking your
chain, thanks for giving us something! I really appreciate your efforts!!!

gcooper
*Crain, Ron
Message 2 of 7 (64 Views)

Re: Dual Processor Documentation? for ROI on a workstation?

11-14-2002 12:11 PM in reply to: *GCooper
First, I'm sooo glad I don't have to justify anything to anyone else but
myself. :-)

Now, I never saw a ROI which covered dual processors - you can do this
yourself by calculating the time you wait for views to become precise - then
compare that to near zero time spent waiting for them because you'll be
working on another part or drawing using the other processor.

Autodesk's very nice benchmarks of video cards is helpful but without adding
tests with multiple windows open at the same time, the bean counters would
buy everyone GeForce 4 cards! In reality, as you may know, there are worlds
of difference between a GeForce 4 and a 900XGL or 700XGL. Your bean
counters are just going to have to learn to have faith in their own
employees.




"GCooper" wrote in message
news:FDE1B53F354A098ED1B43879CB4FF0C1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Sorry to bring this up again, since it has been nearly discussed to death
> here and in the other NGs.
>
> But, Where would I find and "official" Autodesk document that I could
> reference in my cost justification for a new machine with dual processors.
> The guy writing the ROI wants an "official" document that sites dual
> processors as beneficial. I have seen this before but just can't seem to
> find it.
>
> I also need some ammo for justifying RAID0 w/ three drives (rumor has it
> this is the stuff!!!??) and a 900XGL? Does anyone know of a really good
> article, especially with benchmarks that used Inventor for some level of
> testing. Adesk's video card bench marks and certifications really don't
seem
> to guide you toward any sort of a performance workstation or video card. I
> still can't see why anyone would buy a 900xgl if a (550xgl or DCC or GF4)
> performs as well
> (http://support.autodesk.com/inventor-graphic-cards/C_P4_2K_files/7.htm)
and
> I really want a 900XGL!!!!? I need some sort of hard evidence. From
adesk's
> testing we should all be running the GF4 or Quadro 2 Pro or 200 NVS? And
> Cadence and Cadalyst never seem to use a bench mark that includes
Inventor?
>
> And if I use Sean's data an M50 or single processor 340 (thankfully with a
> 900XGL ) would be the way to go? Sean, when is the benchmark going to
> include an *.idw with 10 views of a 15K part assembly, with dimensioning
> while the views are going precise in the background????? Just jerking your
> chain, thanks for giving us something! I really appreciate your efforts!!!
>
> gcooper
>
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Message 3 of 7 (64 Views)

Re:

11-14-2002 02:18 PM in reply to: *GCooper
Yeah and I can see that happening in a hurry :-)

Steve
*Dotson, Sean
Message 4 of 7 (64 Views)

Re: Dual Processor Documentation? for ROI on a workstation?

11-14-2002 10:25 PM in reply to: *GCooper
The benchmark is probably not going to be updated. It was a "shades of
gray" tool at best.

All I can say is be patient and I think we might see a better tool in the
not too distant future.

--
Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
...sleep is for the weak..
-----------------------------------------
"GCooper" wrote in message
news:FDE1B53F354A098ED1B43879CB4FF0C1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
Sean, when is the benchmark going to
> include an *.idw with 10 views of a 15K part assembly, with dimensioning
> while the views are going precise in the background????? Just jerking your
> chain, thanks for giving us something! I really appreciate your efforts!!!
*GCooper
Message 5 of 7 (64 Views)

Re:

11-14-2002 10:25 PM in reply to: *GCooper
Thanks, Sean! And who would be building this benchmark?

Now does anybody know where I can find the Adesk document that says that
Inventor will use two processors (those "trusting" bean counters just want
to see the official document)? Just need that today, the rest was whining,
Sorry. TIA.

gcooper


"Sean Dotson" wrote in message
news:E792AADA469CD18EEAD55954CCFD3614@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> The benchmark is probably not going to be updated. It was a "shades of
> gray" tool at best.
>
> All I can say is be patient and I think we might see a better tool in the
> not too distant future.
>
> --
> Sean Dotson, PE
> http://www.sdotson.com
> ...sleep is for the weak..
> -----------------------------------------
> "GCooper" wrote in message
> news:FDE1B53F354A098ED1B43879CB4FF0C1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Sean, when is the benchmark going to
> > include an *.idw with 10 views of a 15K part assembly, with dimensioning
> > while the views are going precise in the background????? Just jerking
your
> > chain, thanks for giving us something! I really appreciate your
efforts!!!
>
>
*Dotson, Sean
Message 6 of 7 (64 Views)

Re:

11-14-2002 10:39 PM in reply to: *GCooper
http://support.autodesk.com/getDoc.asp?id=TS64341

and for older versions

http://support.autodesk.com/getDoc.asp?id=TS43173

--
Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
...sleep is for the weak..
-----------------------------------------
"GCooper" wrote in message
news:6E57973CD154468C87B6BA0993D78B3B@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Thanks, Sean! And who would be building this benchmark?
>
> Now does anybody know where I can find the Adesk document that says that
> Inventor will use two processors (those "trusting" bean counters just want
> to see the official document)? Just need that today, the rest was whining,
> Sorry. TIA.
>
> gcooper
>
>
> "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
> news:E792AADA469CD18EEAD55954CCFD3614@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > The benchmark is probably not going to be updated. It was a "shades of
> > gray" tool at best.
> >
> > All I can say is be patient and I think we might see a better tool in
the
> > not too distant future.
> >
> > --
> > Sean Dotson, PE
> > http://www.sdotson.com
> > ...sleep is for the weak..
> > -----------------------------------------
> > "GCooper" wrote in message
> > news:FDE1B53F354A098ED1B43879CB4FF0C1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Sean, when is the benchmark going to
> > > include an *.idw with 10 views of a 15K part assembly, with
dimensioning
> > > while the views are going precise in the background????? Just jerking
> your
> > > chain, thanks for giving us something! I really appreciate your
> efforts!!!
> >
> >
>
*GCooper
Message 7 of 7 (64 Views)

Re:

11-14-2002 10:39 PM in reply to: *GCooper
Thanks, that is pretty much what I am looking for. Too bad it isn't a little
more upbeat?


"Sean Dotson" wrote in message
news:4AE890EF95EC4F50C7AC44E3D498F56D@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> http://support.autodesk.com/getDoc.asp?id=TS64341
>
> and for older versions
>
> http://support.autodesk.com/getDoc.asp?id=TS43173
>
> --
> Sean Dotson, PE
> http://www.sdotson.com
> ...sleep is for the weak..
> -----------------------------------------
> "GCooper" wrote in message
> news:6E57973CD154468C87B6BA0993D78B3B@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Thanks, Sean! And who would be building this benchmark?
> >
> > Now does anybody know where I can find the Adesk document that says that
> > Inventor will use two processors (those "trusting" bean counters just
want
> > to see the official document)? Just need that today, the rest was
whining,
> > Sorry. TIA.
> >
> > gcooper
> >
> >
> > "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
> > news:E792AADA469CD18EEAD55954CCFD3614@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > The benchmark is probably not going to be updated. It was a "shades
of
> > > gray" tool at best.
> > >
> > > All I can say is be patient and I think we might see a better tool in
> the
> > > not too distant future.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sean Dotson, PE
> > > http://www.sdotson.com
> > > ...sleep is for the weak..
> > > -----------------------------------------
> > > "GCooper" wrote in message
> > > news:FDE1B53F354A098ED1B43879CB4FF0C1@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Sean, when is the benchmark going to
> > > > include an *.idw with 10 views of a 15K part assembly, with
> dimensioning
> > > > while the views are going precise in the background????? Just
jerking
> > your
> > > > chain, thanks for giving us something! I really appreciate your
> > efforts!!!
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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