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Dimple Die Punch Tool - How To

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Anonymous
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Dimple Die Punch Tool - How To

Thanks to this forum, I finally figured out how to make my own custom Dimple Die Punch Tool iFeature for Sheet Metal.  Below is the .IDE, .IPT & folder including screen shots on how I created it.  Works great, but I welcome any suggestions on improving it.

 

TIP:  Ensure a sketch in your iFeature has a "Hole Center" Point.  This was one of my stumbling blocks at first.

 

Great forum with invaluable info here.  Hopefully, this Punch Tool saves someone a few hours of having to figure it all out.

 

Cheers,

 

Bruce

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Message 2 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Here's some screen shots of results (attached)

Message 3 of 11
b.mccarthy
in reply to: Anonymous

The *.ide works great, however, I cannot get it to unfold correctly, even though "Unfold in flat pattern" is selected. Am I missing a setting somewhere?

Message 4 of 11
johnsonshiue
in reply to: b.mccarthy

Hi Stephen,

 

It really depends on how the deformation was created in ide. If possible, please share an example here or send it to me directly johnson.shiue@autodesk.com. It is either a bug or a limitation.

Many thanks!



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Software Test Engineer
Message 5 of 11
johnsonshiue
in reply to: b.mccarthy

Hi Stephen,

 

Here is the modified version of the punch tool. I used two Extrusions to create the punch and a Fillet to round off the edges. The chamfer is not necessary. See DIMPLE_DIE_fixed.ipt (saved in 2018).

As you can see the punch tool can be placed on any face and near the bend zone. The Bend Radius needs to be big enough. Otherwise, the geometry will be deformed in way failing to unfold.

Please let me know if more information is needed.

Many thanks! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

 



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Software Test Engineer
Message 6 of 11
b.mccarthy
in reply to: johnsonshiue

Hello Jonathan,

 

Thank you for this, however, I still cannot generate a standard, planar flat pattern. The dimples still show. Am I missing something?

Message 7 of 11
johnsonshiue
in reply to: b.mccarthy

Hi Stephen,

 

I think I may have misunderstood your question. To remove the punch from Flat Pattern, you need to change a setting in Flat Pattern. Open the sheet metal part and edit the Flat Pattern -> Edit Flat Pattern Definition -> Punch Representation -> select one of the options that does not include "Formed Punch Feature").

Is this what you were looking for?

Many thanks!



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Software Test Engineer
Message 8 of 11
b.mccarthy
in reply to: johnsonshiue

Hi Jonathan,

 

None of the flat pattern options will display the hole without deformation. I have not explained the issue well enough....

 

One of my clients is asking to see the flat pattern dxf with the hole cutouts, prior to dimpling, as this is the typical workflow at their shop. In your sample, the punch OD is 2", but the pre-dimple hole OD would have to be 1.5" more or less. So, basically, the tool works backward, in that it is adding material to the hole, instead of deforming existing material.

 

Is there anyway to get the flat pattern to show the hole when unfolded, without having to add hole features to it directly?

 

Thanks for your help.

Message 9 of 11
johnsonshiue
in reply to: b.mccarthy

Hi Stephen,

 

I see the issue now. You want to be able to represent the part in two different states (with hole vs with punch).This is actually doable. Here is the trick.

1) Create the holes (no punch) in the folded model.

2) Create the flat pattern. Or you can use Unfold/Refold feature toe show the flattened state.

3) In the flat pattern add the punches.

 

When you don't want to see the punches, simply suppress them in the flat pattern. An other way is to derive the sheet metal part (with holes) into another sheet metal part. Add punches there and create flat pattern. So, you will have two flat patterns (one from the original part with holes; one from the derived part with punches).

Many thanks!



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Software Test Engineer
Message 10 of 11
b.mccarthy
in reply to: johnsonshiue

A possible approach, but I think the dimples should be in the folded part and holes in the flat.

 

Thank you!

Message 11 of 11
johnsonshiue
in reply to: b.mccarthy

Hi! Then I think you could leverage "Punch Removal" workflow (Edit Flat Pattern Definition -> Punch Representation). This will remove the punches. Then you can add the holes in flat pattern.

Many thanks!



Johnson Shiue (johnson.shiue@autodesk.com)
Software Test Engineer

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