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CelticDesignServices
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Delete Line deletes points too?

I have a user who is working on the attached file and for whatever reason, if he inserts a line and then deletes it, the most of, if not all the points that were already in the sketch are deleted as well. They have no connection to the line either.

 

Any ideas?

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Message 2 of 13

I opened the .ipt in Inv2013 Pro, but I didn't see the behaviour you described.

 

I added lines and then deleted them, none of the existing points were deleted.

 

I also added lines, finished sketch, reopened sketch for editing and then deleted lines all without any effect on the existing lines and points.

 

I tried the same things in Inv2012 Pro with the same results.

 

HTH

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Andy M
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Message 3 of 13

Really?

Odd because I'm able to duplicate what the user is seeing (both on 2012 with all current SP's).

I'll have to attempt this on my personal seat of Ultimate when I get back to the office.

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Message 4 of 13

Here's a "before" and "after" screen shot when I delete the middle line:

 

Before:

 

Before.JPG

 

After:

After.JPG

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Message 5 of 13

If you mean the diagonal line that is unconstrained at the bottom of the geometry, then yes, I can delete that line without any effect to the points or any other part of the geometry.

 

See the attached image, where I have deleted most of the lines without affecting any of the points.

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Message 6 of 13

Hmm,

 

I could only wonder what the issue is then.

Could it be a local (client) setting?

If I can't duplicate the error on my own seat of 2012 later tonight, I'll have to assume it's a localized issue.

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Message 7 of 13

It certainly seems strange. I'm sure I have seen similar occurances in Inventor before, where doing one thing affects another, but unfortunately in this case I couldn't reproduce your results. As you already suspect, it's probably something local.

 

I'd certainly be curious to know what the cause is though, considering that both of you have seen the same behaviour.

 

I guess the only thing you can do is to make sure everything is up to date, Windows, graphics card drivers etc... 

 

Do you have SP1 installed on 2012?

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Andy M
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Message 8 of 13

For whatever it is worth - I would never create a 3D sketch with points like that.

Nearly all my 3D sketches are generated from 2D sketches - much easier to create and infinitely easier to edit.

 


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Message 9 of 13

Trumpy & JD,

 

Trumpy, yes, we are all up to date with Service Packs, drivers, etc.

 

JD, I agree with you. I'm not sure what the deal is but lets just say this is from a diehard SW user, you being a certified SW guy, does it look like a workflow of SW...to do sketches like that?

 

I'm not even sure what the points are needed for but that's beside the point here.

 

I never got the chance to open this file up on my office system last night, hoping I can tonight.

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Message 10 of 13

I see the same behavior as you.  I see it with the file you posted.  Also, strangely enough, I saw this very same thing happen to me yesterday with a part I was working on.  First time I ever saw it, then I see your post today about the same thing!

 

I was also working in a 3D sketch, by the way.  I was able to re-arrange my geometry to get around the issue.

Message 11 of 13

Here's the weird thing on this.....I can't duplicate it if I start a new file. I can only duplicate it in the same file I posted.

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Message 12 of 13

Hi CelticDesignServices,

 

There is a bit if difference in the way that sketch points and center points are deleted. In general sketch points (simple dot) are deleted when the associated geometry is deleted. Center points (point cross) are not deleted in the same case. This might explain some of what you're encountering.

 

I hope this helps.
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Message 13 of 13

Curtis,

 

Yes, I considered that. But I just verified the issue we're seeing is only with that sketch. If I start a new sketch in the same file, using the exact same points, etc, then delete the lines, everything works as you'd expect.

But if I add lines to that original sketch, no matter what I do, I get the bad results.

Not knowing how this sketch was created or what iterations its been through, I have to assume it's gone corrupt.

 

I just advised the user to delete the sketch in question and start a new one.

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