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Custom iParts Part number

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Message 1 of 22
Anonymous
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‎03-14-2003 02:35 AM
‎03-14-2003 02:35 AM

Custom iParts Part number

Why is it that on custom iparts, the part number that is displayed on the
BOM is ALWAYS the name of the ipart parent and not the filename? On any
other parts (iparts or normal parts), the value in the part number is the
same as the filename of the part.

Is there anyway to have the custom iparts behave like the other parts?

Kirk
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IV6, sp2
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Message 2 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎03-14-2003 02:40 AM
‎03-14-2003 02:40 AM

Are you specifying the part number for each iPart member in your table? If so what is your syntax?
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Anonymous
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‎03-14-2003 02:50 AM
‎03-14-2003 02:50 AM

When I insert the iPart into the assembly, I am
given a chance to assign the filename.  If I do this or not it doesn't
matter, the part name of the parent is shown in the bill of materials, not the
part name of the part that was just produced.


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
Are
you specifying the part number for each iPart member in your table? If so what
is your syntax?
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎03-14-2003 02:52 AM
‎03-14-2003 02:52 AM

You can explicitly set in the iPart table the part number, description, and file name of each instance. You need to do this to get the behavior you are looking for.
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎03-14-2003 02:56 AM
‎03-14-2003 02:56 AM

What I am not sure about is what to put in the
filename column since this is a custom iPart.  With it being a custom iPart
the filename can be different each time it is inserted.


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
You
can explicitly set in the iPart table the part number, description, and file
name of each instance. You need to do this to get the behavior you are looking
for.
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎03-14-2003 03:48 AM
‎03-14-2003 03:48 AM

OK what do you mean by custom iPart?
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Message 7 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎03-14-2003 04:02 AM
‎03-14-2003 04:02 AM

These are parts that will allow the user to input a
value (usually length) and the filename.  Here is a link for an
example.

 


 

Try inserting this into an assembly.

 

Kirk

 


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
OK
what do you mean by custom iPart?
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎03-14-2003 04:19 AM
‎03-14-2003 04:19 AM

<>
Well I think you can put any thing, for example 'SaddamBush'
in that coloumn and copy it in all the cells, as you are going to change the name any way with each new instance.
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Message 9 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎03-14-2003 04:41 AM
‎03-14-2003 04:41 AM

Well I guess maybe you wanted a more elegant solution but just make the part number a prompted value like the length is.

Now for the next question, am I the only one that gets a quick exit when I use this in an assembly using semi-isolated?

Rich Thomas
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Message 10 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎03-14-2003 04:44 AM
‎03-14-2003 04:44 AM

The filename is a prompted value.

 

I don't get a quick exit when using the
iChannel-ASTM file.

 

Kirk

 


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
Well
I guess maybe you wanted a more elegant solution but just make the part number
a prompted value like the length is.

Now for the next question, am I
the only one that gets a quick exit when I use this in an assembly using
semi-isolated?

Rich Thomas
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Message 11 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎03-14-2003 04:51 AM
‎03-14-2003 04:51 AM

Yes the file name is a prompted value, but not the part number. Make the part number property a prompted value and it will correctly populate your BOM.
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Message 12 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎03-14-2003 06:04 AM
‎03-14-2003 06:04 AM

In my case, the filename and the part number are
always the same. This would require me to enter this number in twice for
custom iParts... (bummer)

 

 


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
Yes
the file name is a prompted value, but not the part number. Make the part
number property a prompted value and it will correctly populate your
BOM.
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎03-14-2003 10:39 AM
‎03-14-2003 10:39 AM

Kirk,

    Is there an update for the
iChannel?  There was an error in that file!  Did tell Charles! 
Be careful and check the dimensions.

Ole

 


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

These are parts that will allow the user to input
a value (usually length) and the filename.  Here is a link for an
example.

 


 

Try inserting this into an assembly.

 

Kirk

 


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
OK
what do you mean by custom iPart?
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎03-14-2003 10:50 AM
‎03-14-2003 10:50 AM

I have tried to suggest to
Autodesk a solution to this problem but I have not had any reply
Kirk!


This will make it possible to have a custom property
yet have a regular iPart filename.


How about giving me two excel sheets in the
iPart. One I construct and one that Inventor generates as excel vba routine
(?) when a custom property(ies) is chosen.


This vba excel sheet would have all the first sheet
members plus the custom property(ies) as an regular property(ies) and be "the"
sheet  when the filename is generated.


When a second iPart is chosen with a new custom
property, Inventor would read from the constructed sheet and generates another
line in the vba excel sheet.


This should improve iParts quite a bit


 



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.


> Why is it that on
custom iparts, the part number that is displayed on the
> BOM is ALWAYS
the name of the ipart parent and not the filename?  On any
> other
parts (iparts or normal parts), the value in the part number is the
> same
as the filename of the part.
>
> Is there anyway to have the custom
iparts behave like the other parts?
>
> Kirk
> --
>
IV6, sp2
> WinXP Pro
> P4, 2.8 Ghz, 1G
> Quadro 900 XGL
(pny)
> nVidia v6.13.10.4072
> 1280x1024, 32 bit
>
>
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Message 15 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎03-14-2003 08:35 PM
‎03-14-2003 08:35 PM

Kirk,

It's a limitation of custom iParts. Autodesk knows it's a problem...

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Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
Check the Inventor FAQ for most common questions
www.sdotson.com/faq.html
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"Kirk A." wrote in message
news:D4901D2EF4727791F87E2540C0D4E4D3@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> In my case, the filename and the part number are always the same. This
would require me to enter this number in twice for custom iParts... (bummer)
>
>
> "rllthomas" wrote in message
news:f14e7da.9@WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Yes the file name is a prompted value, but not the part number. Make the
part number property a prompted value and it will correctly populate your
BOM.
>
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎03-17-2003 12:04 AM
‎03-17-2003 12:04 AM

Thanks,
At least I know it is not something I am doing wrong.

"Sean Dotson" wrote in message
news:E343446C769C40CE82E3A2756488E626@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Kirk,
>
> It's a limitation of custom iParts. Autodesk knows it's a problem...
>
> --
> Sean Dotson, PE
> http://www.sdotson.com
> Check the Inventor FAQ for most common questions
> www.sdotson.com/faq.html
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Message 17 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎03-17-2003 12:18 AM
‎03-17-2003 12:18 AM

Kirk,

After some more investigation I found that this was fixed. At least in
R6SP2.

Can you send me the part or post it in CF and I'll have a look. You should
be able to specify the part # and make it stick.

My apologies for misleading you.

--
Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
Check the Inventor FAQ for most common questions
www.sdotson.com/faq.html
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"Kirk A." wrote in message
news:343DFCCB6DA4707467751F3E2F2D2787@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Thanks,
> At least I know it is not something I am doing wrong.
>
> "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
> news:E343446C769C40CE82E3A2756488E626@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Kirk,
> >
> > It's a limitation of custom iParts. Autodesk knows it's a problem...
> >
> > --
> > Sean Dotson, PE
> > http://www.sdotson.com
> > Check the Inventor FAQ for most common questions
> > www.sdotson.com/faq.html
>
>
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎03-17-2003 12:32 AM
‎03-17-2003 12:32 AM

Do you know what the error was?  I
noticed that the slope on the flanges was not correct and fixed that.  I
didn't see any other problem, but I didn't check ALL of the information in
the spread sheet.


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

Kirk,

    Is there an update for the
iChannel?  There was an error in that file!  Did tell Charles! 
Be careful and check the dimensions.

Ole

 


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">

These are parts that will allow the user to
input a value (usually length) and the filename.  Here is a link for an
example.

 


 

Try inserting this into an
assembly.

 

Kirk

 


style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
OK
what do you mean by custom
iPart?
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Message 19 of 22
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎03-17-2003 02:21 AM
‎03-17-2003 02:21 AM

(in reply to your email)

Sorry, I guess I misunderstood you once again.

What you want is not possible right now. If you do not specify a part #
column (which your part does not have) it will use the filename of the base
part (not the name you save it as).

If you do specify the part number column it wil be as selected in the table.


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Sean Dotson, PE
http://www.sdotson.com
Check the Inventor FAQ for most common questions
www.sdotson.com/faq.html
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"Sean Dotson" wrote in message
news:D130D7CC0DC6D371F813032F1FDB2371@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Kirk,
>
> After some more investigation I found that this was fixed. At least in
> R6SP2.
>
> Can you send me the part or post it in CF and I'll have a look. You
should
> be able to specify the part # and make it stick.
>
> My apologies for misleading you.
>
> --
> Sean Dotson, PE
> http://www.sdotson.com
> Check the Inventor FAQ for most common questions
> www.sdotson.com/faq.html
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> "Kirk A." wrote in message
> news:343DFCCB6DA4707467751F3E2F2D2787@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > Thanks,
> > At least I know it is not something I am doing wrong.
> >
> > "Sean Dotson" wrote in message
> > news:E343446C769C40CE82E3A2756488E626@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > > Kirk,
> > >
> > > It's a limitation of custom iParts. Autodesk knows it's a problem...
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sean Dotson, PE
> > > http://www.sdotson.com
> > > Check the Inventor FAQ for most common questions
> > > www.sdotson.com/faq.html
> >
> >
>
>
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Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous
‎03-17-2003 06:14 AM
‎03-17-2003 06:14 AM

What doesn't work is if you base the part number off the length or some other trickery in Excel. It would be cool if the excel cells were recalculated based on the input but unfortunately the cells are static values unless excel is open 😞
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