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Crashing Rev8

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KentKeller
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‎12-09-2003 06:27 AM
‎12-09-2003 06:27 AM

Crashing Rev8

....Brought over from the rev7 group...
In an assembly if I select a part and RMB and then select "isolate" it crashes...every time. Can anyone explain to me what this "isolation" option is suppose to do? Other than crash my system. BTW - My system: Brand spanking new...Dell PWS360; Pent4; CPU 2.60Ghz; 512 RAM; video card: nVidia Quadro FX500 (128mb)...any clue?
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KentKeller
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‎12-09-2003 06:28 AM
‎12-09-2003 06:28 AM

Hey Kent....
How in the world did I post as you? I'm logged in as me and I have no idea what your log in is. This is too weird.
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Anonymous
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‎12-09-2003 06:33 AM
‎12-09-2003 06:33 AM

When you RMB on a part or assembly in the
browser and select isolate, all other parts/sub-assemblies in the current
assembly have their visibility turned off.  It works perfectly on my
computer and I am running a Compaq laptop with an ATI graphics
card.
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pdnm1
in reply to: KentKeller
‎12-09-2003 06:39 AM
‎12-09-2003 06:39 AM

Hmmm, would it matter if I already made a part(s) invisible and then selected "isolate"? I'd tend to think not. But I'm gonna fire up IV again and give it a try without doing such....I'll post result in a few.
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pdnm1
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‎12-09-2003 06:42 AM
‎12-09-2003 06:42 AM

THAT'S IT!!!! Do NOT, I repeat...do NOT have any parts set as "invisible" and then select "isolate" otherwise it'll crash. It works fine otherwise. Can someone verify this please?
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Anonymous
in reply to: KentKeller
‎12-09-2003 06:54 AM
‎12-09-2003 06:54 AM

I can turn the visibility of some parts off and
isolate still works fine.  If I have some parts in a subassembly turned off
and then isolate that subassembly, it isolates just fine but the parts that I
originally turned off are still off (as I would expect them to be).

 

It was a good thought, but that doesn't seem to be
a problem on my computer.
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pdnm1
in reply to: KentKeller
‎12-09-2003 07:12 AM
‎12-09-2003 07:12 AM

dag nab it!!! Why me?!!!! Why me?!!!
Well I guess until I figure out why it makes my system crash (mine's the only system rev8 is loaded on at the moment) I'll just have to make sure I don't use this option or whatever....ugh.
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pdnm1
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‎12-09-2003 07:37 AM
‎12-09-2003 07:37 AM

Well kids, I have figured it out (I hope). The assembly or any assembly where I can make rev8 crash as described all have unresolved links in them. I don't get the crash issue in assemblies where I resolve the links.
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Anonymous
in reply to: KentKeller
‎12-09-2003 11:22 PM
‎12-09-2003 11:22 PM

Thanks for reporting this.  This issue has now
been logged.

 

Rich Willis- Autodesk

 

 

 


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Well
kids, I have figured it out (I hope). The assembly or any assembly where I can
make rev8 crash as described all have unresolved links in them. I don't get
the crash issue in assemblies where I resolve the
links.
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Anonymous
in reply to: KentKeller
‎12-10-2003 02:27 AM
‎12-10-2003 02:27 AM

Well now that we know what it's for, how do we get out of it? When I isolate, I'm stuck. I've tried all the RMB options, views, help files, everything I can think of. Once I isolate a part, I have to close the assembly file and re-open to get back to a normal view.


Tom
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Anonymous
in reply to: KentKeller
‎12-10-2003 03:09 AM
‎12-10-2003 03:09 AM

Have you tried using the system all.visible design
view?
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Anonymous
in reply to: KentKeller
‎12-10-2003 03:27 AM
‎12-10-2003 03:27 AM

Yes, I have. That, of course turns EVERYTHING back on, just like it says. I often have assemblies with some things not visible so that I can check different fits, configurations, etc. Going to "System All"means going back to square one on my configuration. I also found that closing and re-opening does NOT re-set visibility. I don't really have a need for the Isolate function; it just seems odd that it is semi-permanent, and that the help files have no reference to it at all.


Thanks for the reply

Tom
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Anonymous
in reply to: KentKeller
‎12-10-2003 03:48 AM
‎12-10-2003 03:48 AM

Odd, I have access to visibility for all components. RMB on a component
and hit "isolate", everything else turns off. Highlight any other
component or shift/select multiple and RMB/click "visibility" and they
are restored to visible.
darvin

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> Yes, I have. That, of course turns EVERYTHING back on, just like it
says. I often have assemblies with some things not visible so that I can
check different fits, configurations, etc. Going to "System All"means
going back to square one on my configuration. I also found that closing
and re-opening does NOT re-set visibility. I don't really have a need
for the Isolate function; it just seems odd that it is semi-permanent,
and that the help files have no reference to it at all.
> Thanks for the reply
> Tom
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Anonymous
in reply to: KentKeller
‎12-10-2003 03:59 AM
‎12-10-2003 03:59 AM

Yes, but with maybe 100 parts in an assembly, and 25 or so not visible, it's a pain to restore that configuration. It's no problem; I just won't ever again click that button-at least not on purpose. I still don't know what the value of that function is supposed to be, though.

Tom
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Anonymous
in reply to: KentKeller
‎12-10-2003 04:06 AM
‎12-10-2003 04:06 AM

so you don't have to see through 100 parts when
your modifying one or two


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Yes,
but with maybe 100 parts in an assembly, and 25 or so not visible, it's a pain
to restore that configuration. It's no problem; I just won't ever again click
that button-at least not on purpose. I still don't know what the value of that
function is supposed to be, though.
Tom
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Anonymous
in reply to: KentKeller
‎12-10-2003 04:28 AM
‎12-10-2003 04:28 AM

Good point. I still wish there were a good way to get back to the starting point. I've never uses any of the other 3D systems (PTC, SW, etc.), but some people have mentioned that some of them have a "configuration" control. That might make this a more useful function. I'm sure that most people will be quite content with it as is, though.

Thanks

Tom
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Anonymous
in reply to: KentKeller
‎12-10-2003 05:05 AM
‎12-10-2003 05:05 AM

As a relatively painless workaround, save a design
view of your current state before using Isolate. Apply the design view to
restore to the original conditions.

 

Neil


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Good
point. I still wish there were a good way to get back to the starting point.
I've never uses any of the other 3D systems (PTC, SW, etc.), but some people
have mentioned that some of them have a "configuration" control. That might
make this a more useful function. I'm sure that most people will be quite
content with it as is, though.
Thanks
Tom
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