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pcrawley
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Content Center :-)

Contrary to some of the other posts here - I love the new stuff in Content Center.

Does anyone know how to copy a family in Content Center? What I've done is to edit a family of nuts and set them all to have my part numbers, my range of sizes, and I specified material. What I would like to do now is copy the family and just change the material. Any ideas?

I thought I would be clever and create a temporary library - copy my family of nuts across - edit the material and rename the family, then copy it back, but this fails with an error about duplicate member id's - whatever that means.

Any help much appreciated.
Peter
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Message 2 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: pcrawley

Hi,
To be able to copy a family you need to have editor permissions and a
read-write library configured.
Once you have these invoke the 'Content Center Editor' command from the
tools menu.
RMB on an family and select the copy to command, and copy it to your r/w
library.

I have attached a screenshot for your reference. Please let me know if this
helped.

Thanks,

Arun

wrote in message news:5163298@discussion.autodesk.com...
Contrary to some of the other posts here - I love the new stuff in Content
Center.

Does anyone know how to copy a family in Content Center? What I've done is
to edit a family of nuts and set them all to have my part numbers, my range
of sizes, and I specified material. What I would like to do now is copy the
family and just change the material. Any ideas?

I thought I would be clever and create a temporary library - copy my family
of nuts across - edit the material and rename the family, then copy it back,
but this fails with an error about duplicate member id's - whatever that
means.

Any help much appreciated.
Message 3 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: pcrawley

I love content centre too... but I do feel that the implementation in AIS11 is not as good as AIS10.

The auto selection and constraint is a great idea, but is something that I hardly ever use as I normally want to place multiple components - so it's back to the old ways because of how slow the content centre is.

Whilst I have been able to edit descriptions for parts, I have failed to set further parts data (vendor, stock code etc) as AIS11 looses these settings as soon as you publish, whereas AIS10 was brilliant . So I have to hand edit every ipt produced by the content centre 😞

The help for setting up your own content libraries / vault settings / assign libraries to projects in order to start editting parts is clumsy as it is spread across the help files for more than one application.

However, for all the moaning it's basically a brilliant feature... it just needs a few more rough edges knocking off
Message 4 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: pcrawley

I may be mistaken but I don't even know how this is possible with the
current way content centre works. It does not distinguish between different
content centre libraries - it kind of melds them into one. IMO, I think it
would make much more sense to allow us to actually pick from what library we
are pulling a part from. Example: Once we copy a family of Channels to
another library, it would be great if we were able to choose which library
we were pulling those channels from. This is not allowed.

If we wanted one family to be mild steel and one family to be HSLA steel, I
believe you have to go into every single line and make a new entry. I don't
think you can copy the same family over again.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks,

Rob

"Arun Srikantaiah (Autodesk)" wrote in
message news:5163840@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi,
To be able to copy a family you need to have editor permissions and a
read-write library configured.
Once you have these invoke the 'Content Center Editor' command from the
tools menu.
RMB on an family and select the copy to command, and copy it to your r/w
library.

I have attached a screenshot for your reference. Please let me know if this
helped.

Thanks,

Arun

wrote in message news:5163298@discussion.autodesk.com...
Contrary to some of the other posts her
e - I love the new stuff in Content
Center.

Does anyone know how to copy a family in Content Center? What I've done is
to edit a family of nuts and set them all to have my part numbers, my range
of sizes, and I specified material. What I would like to do now is copy the
family and just change the material. Any ideas?

I thought I would be clever and create a temporary library - copy my family
of nuts across - edit the material and rename the family, then copy it
back,
but this fails with an error about duplicate member id's - whatever that
means.

Any help much appreciated.
Message 5 of 10
pcrawley
in reply to: pcrawley

Amazing how quickly a thread gets hijacked in here these days!

Rob - You are on the case, but I think Arun, you may have missed the point.

I have already copied the standard content into my own R/W library. I have already edited the content to include part numbers, material, stock code etc. I now have - for example AS1110 Metric Bolts - Mild Steel. What I want to do is copy this family and call it AS1110 Metric bolts - Stainless 316 (then edit the material of course).

Rob - Regarding the "melding into one" - use the filters. I did an "Edit Family properties" and set the Standards Organization to "mine", then created a filter which just shows content from the "mine" Standards organization.

Matt - The slowness you are describing is probably because you have all the standards libraries loaded. If you deselect the ones you don't use (through the small icon on the right hand side of the Projects dialog) you'll find it dynamically faster.

So back to MY problem 😉 Any ideas? I'm pretty sure duplicating each line in the one library won't work because material is not a "key" field and therefore will cause problems when placing content or using "Autodrop". All I want is two libraries of bolts - one Mild steel and one Stainless.
Peter
Message 6 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: pcrawley

Copy To functionality is not really intended for creating duplicate
families. Rather it should be used for copying the family to Read/Write
library for modifications. In the consumer environment (Place from Content
Center command) you will always see the "merged" view of all libraries,
where copied family is effectively visible just once. Therefore your
original idea cannot be completed with current CC workflows.

However, the duplication of the rows (as you mentioned it below) is the way
to accomplished your goal. You just need to add the material column to the
key columns (this is available in the Family Table Edit toolbar - last icon
with key) and extend the Filename of the family by the Material (otherwise
your parts in library folder gets replaced or reused with wrong material).

Regards, Michal

wrote in message news:5164852@discussion.autodesk.com...
Amazing how quickly a thread gets hijacked in here these days!

Rob - You are on the case, but I think Arun, you may have missed the point.

I have already copied the standard content into my own R/W library. I have
already edited the content to include part numbers, material, stock code
etc. I now have - for example AS1110 Metric Bolts - Mild Steel. What I
want to do is copy this family and call it AS1110 Metric bolts - Stainless
316 (then edit the material of course).

Rob - Regarding the "melding into one" - use the filters. I did an "Edit
Family properties" and set the Standards Organization to "mine", then
created a filter which just shows content from the "mine" Standards
organization.

Matt - The slowness you are describing is probably because you have all the
standards libraries loaded. If you deselect the ones you don't use (through
the small icon on the right hand side of the Projects dialog) you'll find it
dynamically faster.

So back to MY problem 😉 Any ideas? I'm pretty sure duplicating each line
in the one library won't work because material is not a "key" field and
therefore will cause problems when placing content or using "Autodrop". All
I want is two libraries of bolts - one Mild steel and one Stainless.
Message 7 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: pcrawley

Michal is right, you will have to add the material column and duplicate the
rows (you will soon find out that's a PITA as you can't copy-back the rows
from Excel...at least I have not been succesfull...)

Michal --> talk to Mila Latalova, there was a good topic called "The Future
of Content Center" during the IV11 eBeta.

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Message 8 of 10
Anonymous
in reply to: pcrawley

I don't feel as optimistic about the CC as you do. I've had nothing but brick walls with this ADMS thing. It constantly crashes my IV and I've re-installed IV and ADMS several times with no luck. Just wait instability is very near you just haven't hit it yet.
Message 9 of 10
rwollenhaupt
in reply to: pcrawley

A warning when editing many of the fastener family tables for IV 11. After adding new rows, and applying the changes many of the family tables will give a warning that the family will become sick. Other family tables will give this warning if a new column is added. This has keep me from modifying the fastener tables. This problem dies not exist with the steel tables. The problem is suppose to be fixed with SP1.
Message 10 of 10
pcrawley
in reply to: pcrawley

If you duplicate the rows, how does "Autodrop" determine the correct material part to place? Do we have to edit the part every time one is placed?
Peter

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