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Change Revision Tag Triangle Size

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01-12-2011 05:24 PM

I Have problem to change Revision Tag Triangle size. I need to suit the triangle size to the proportional size (as shown on attachment). Any idea? any help will be appreciated. Thanks.

The revision tag size is governed by the text height used for it in the styles based on ASME standards. To my knowledge, this isn't exposed in the API and if that's the case, we couldn't even access the spacing of the symbol to text height with a macro. Based on that, your best bet is to define your own symbol in your template(s) and use this triangle size for your rev tags.

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Re: Change Revision Tag Triangle Size

01-13-2011 02:31 PM in reply to: binsar_z

The revision tag size is governed by the text height used for it in the styles based on ASME standards. To my knowledge, this isn't exposed in the API and if that's the case, we couldn't even access the spacing of the symbol to text height with a macro. Based on that, your best bet is to define your own symbol in your template(s) and use this triangle size for your rev tags.



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binsar_z
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Re: Change Revision Tag Triangle Size

01-24-2011 04:59 PM in reply to: Daren.Lawrence

Hi Daren,

 

We have one license of SolidWorks, and when try to put revision tag, it looks better, we can also rotate it. As I know we can't found it this menu in Inventor. May be Autodesk should be concern about it, as the people have been asking or posting from several years ago.

 

Thank you for attantion.

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Re: Change Revision Tag Triangle Size

11-07-2011 05:26 AM in reply to: binsar_z

The post says issue solved.  Changing the text size does not change the ratio of the circle or the triangle.  Just makes the text harder to read.  Unless the fix is to switch to solid works.  Because this appears to to have been an issue for the last 6 years and Autodesk has never addressed this issue.

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Re: Change Revision Tag Triangle Size

11-07-2011 05:43 AM in reply to: lark22

lark22 wrote:

The post says issue solved.  Changing the text size does not change the ratio of the circle or the triangle.  Just makes the text harder to read.  Unless the fix is to switch to solid works.  Because this appears to to have been an issue for the last 6 years and Autodesk has never addressed this issue.


umm. Changing the text size changes the size of the triangle. Have you had any training on how to modify drawing styles properly?

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Re: Change Revision Tag Triangle Size

11-07-2011 05:54 AM in reply to: mcgyvr

I have been doing this for almost 30 years and every companys standard ballon size is .25 inch with .125 text.  This has been the norm forever.  Attached is the proof that I have changed the text size and that the revision balloon looks hugh in comparison.  Please do not say you just dont know what you are doing when Autodesk cant even program to industry standards.

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11-07-2011 06:40 AM in reply to: lark22

lark22 wrote:

I have been doing this for almost 30 years and every companys standard ballon size is .25 inch with .125 text.  This has been the norm forever.  Attached is the proof that I have changed the text size and that the revision balloon looks hugh in comparison.  Please do not say you just dont know what you are doing when Autodesk cant even program to industry standards.


The "norm" is not a standard. Autodesk is 100% compliant with ASME Y14.35M. However that standard is VERY open in what a revision tag/symbol is. Technically all one must do to be compliant is have a circle around your revision letters. No mention of circle to text scale/font size or anything. The size of the triangle or circle DOES change based on the size of the text inside it as I said above.

I do see your issue though in that the scale of a triangle to the text is smaller than the scale of the circle to text. We always use triangles here as I have found that to be more of the "norm". As a triangle represents the greek "delta" which means to "change".

 

The real problem is not Autodesk its that lack of a "complete" industry standard for revision symbols. However yes Autodesk could tighten up the scale of circle to text (and hexagon symbol too). The triangle and box are much more proportionate. 

 

 

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Re: Change Revision Tag Triangle Size

11-07-2011 06:55 AM in reply to: mcgyvr

Hi Lark,

I have tagged this issue solved as Daren suggested to use our own triangle symbol, although exactly it is not fully satisfied.

 

@Mcgyvr,

Better you show (print screen or recorded screen) how do you solve this through style, as I still can't found which place in the style should be change to cover this issue. Your help will be appreciated.

 

Thank you.

 

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Re: Change Revision Tag Triangle Size

11-07-2011 08:24 AM in reply to: binsar_z

binsar,

Thats the correct spot.. However looking at your image the triangle rev symbol scale looks off compared to what I get...

 

Now trying it myself I see that the smaller you make the text the greater the scale between font size and symbol size. I've always just used .125" text and the triangle looks "properly" scaled to me.

So yes something is not exactly right there and Autodesk should look into it. However I wouldn't put anything smaller than .125" text for a rev symbol anyways as anything less is too small to read when printed.

Oh and it gets even worse when you have more than 1 rev letter. Yuck.. yes this could use some improvement Autodesk. Yes you meet the intent of the standard but it would be nice if you refined this a bit.

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